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Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by croes on Thursday October 05, 2023 @03:55PM (#37783479)
Am I an artist if I let Midjourney create an image for me
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by tacheiordache on Thursday October 05, 2023 @04:11PM (#37783691)
>Am I an artist if I let Midjourney create an image for me

There are two answers:

a) No, that only proves you can type. b) Yes, you are an artist just like everybody else.

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by chank on Thursday October 05, 2023 @04:08PM (#37783653)
No, you're an art "producer" in the same fashion of music producers who are not musicians, but still create music.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by diggan on Thursday October 05, 2023 @04:28PM (#37783882)
Honest question: Where is the line drawn between music producers and musicians? Playing instruments? Using samples?
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by chank on Thursday October 05, 2023 @04:47PM (#37784105)
Areas of responsibility. The producer is the person ultimately responsible for the output. You can be a producer and not know a lick about good musicianship or play an instrument, but you have good taste and can use tools (samples, software, etc) to take what others have done to make something others will like/use/pay for/etc.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by 0fox on Thursday October 05, 2023 @08:36PM (#37785976)
You can be a software engineer and not know a lick about syntax or write algorithms, but you have good intuition and can use tools (LLMs, autocomplete, etc) to take what others have done to make something others will like/use/pay for/etc.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by skydhash on Thursday October 05, 2023 @09:08PM (#37786150)
Why use tools? Just be a product manager and you'd attain the same result.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by diggan on Friday October 06, 2023 @05:56AM (#37788816)
If you can put together (tasteful) songs by using tools like samples and software, aren't you a musician then? Many would consider tools like DAWs instruments, so mastering one of those would be considered playing an instrument, at least for those people.
Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by chank on Friday October 06, 2023 @08:44PM (#37798038)
> Many would consider tools like DAWs instruments...

People can stretch the definition however they like since there is no hard acceptance of where the line is drawn. Sure the general term musician means a person who plays/creates music. A person who hums can be a musician.

However in my own opinion, I disagree. DAWs are not instruments in themselves. The main functionality of a DAW is in recording, arranging, and mixing audio. They are the digital equivilent of a tape recorder and manual cut/splice process. They have evolved to include many software add-on emulations of instruments and packages around the production process: synths, pianos, mastering tools, additional recording tools, etc. Using a DAW does not make you a musician, but using provided instrumentation in a DAW can make you become a musician.

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by scj on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:46PM (#37784686)
AI aside, does compiling using gcc with -S make someone an assembly programmer?

Doing so helped me become a better assembly programmer.

Re:I’m not a programmer, and I used AI to build my first bot by PheonixPharts on Thursday October 05, 2023 @09:20PM (#37786225)
I think you're confusing artist with something specific like sculptor or painter.

Some of the work people put into getting Stable Diffusion to create the results they want takes plenty of time and skill. But event then I would say that putting in time and skill is not strictly required to make art.

You can absolutely be an artist using generative AI, but you of course wouldn't be a painter if you use generative AI.

In this example you can be an application developer but still not a programmer.