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Re:Pixel 8 Pro by Barrin92 on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @06:50PM (#37772822)
> From where I'm sitting software is millions of times better today than it was in the 90s

I feel compelled to bring up this tweet from John Carmack I just saw a few hours ago. The most popular editor on the planet feels laggier than stuff Borland made in the 90s, on hardware probably a thousand times as fast. I don't know how anyone can say software is great with a straight face.

We have supercomputers in our pockets and on the slightly aged phone my dad refuses to upgrade from four years ago many apps lag. They display like 5 widgets or 20 rows of items at any given time

https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1709651442762481877?s=20

Re:Pixel 8 Pro by sanswork on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @07:01PM (#37772921)
Turbo C++ was my first IDE(a birthday present when I was a kid) and I will always be grateful of it for triggering my love of programming but to say that is even in the same category as a modern IDE is a huge stretch. Of course modern stuff is laggier for most IDE's as it's doing real time analysis on your code as you type. If you want to compare it with a Borland IDE from the 90s open up notepad and start typing.
Re:Pixel 8 Pro by pjmlp on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:06AM (#37776395)
Borland IDEs were definitly better than Notepad.
Re:Pixel 8 Pro by sanswork on Thursday October 05, 2023 @05:32AM (#37776553)
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Re:Pixel 8 Pro by pjmlp on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:06AM (#37776727)
Stuck in MS-DOS?

As someone that used all their products from MS-DOS, through Windows 3.x days up to switching to Visual C++ 6.0, I clearly remeber code completion, syntax highlighting and macros, three features that Notepad isn't capable of.

As easily proven, by reading the manuals available in Bitsavers.

Re:Pixel 8 Pro by sanswork on Thursday October 05, 2023 @06:37AM (#37776917)
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Re:Pixel 8 Pro by pjmlp on Thursday October 05, 2023 @07:21AM (#37777181)
Besides moving goalposts, Notepad++ still isn't on the same league as Borland's IDEs.
Re:Pixel 8 Pro by vetinari on Thursday October 05, 2023 @10:17AM (#37778918)
Turbo Pascal 7 did syntax highlighting, as well as source-level debugging. That was on top of nice-to-have features like auto-indenting.

It was a DOS, Turbo Vision application.

Re:Pixel 8 Pro by drchickensalad on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @07:00PM (#37772907)
The ratio of users who give a shit about 100ms of input lag on a 4 year old phone is tiny compared to devs who cared about typing lag 20 years ago
Re:Pixel 8 Pro by TeMPOraL on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @08:05PM (#37773356)
It isn't. The users are just conditioned to shut up. Technology universally sucks, but it's magic, and it's all a supplier-driven market with high natural barriers to entry - meaning vendors don't give a flying fuck about what the users think, the users are to buy what they're given and be happy about it - so everyone just accepts it's how it's supposed to be, and adjusts their lives to work around tech being shit.
Re:Pixel 8 Pro by kaba0 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @01:33AM (#37775199)
In the meanwhile, I know plenty of my friends happily daily driving an iphone 8, a 6 years old device.