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Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by syntaxing on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:05PM (#37770029)
Genuinely curious, I don’t see how this isn’t fair use? Probably one of the reason Facebook doesn’t “charge” for this.
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by theshrike79 on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:16PM (#37770184)
Try making a Mickey Mouse animation and release it for free. Then shout "FAIR USE, FAIR USE!" when the Mouse's lawyers burn your house down and take everything that's left =)

It doesn't matter whether the result is sold or not, copyright law doesn't care.

Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by dvngnt_ on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:41PM (#37770521)
not a lawyer, but what can they take if you don't gain?

maybe they could cite brand harm which might have monetary implications.

Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by theshrike79 on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:44PM (#37770573)
If you're using someone else's copyright, you're effectively stealing from them. It literally doesn't matter if you don't make money off it.

A quick search provided this link: https://www.kent.edu/it/civil-and-criminal-penalties-violati...

    Penalties for copyright infringement include civil and criminal penalties. In general, anyone found liable for civil copyright infringement may be ordered to pay either actual damages or "statutory" damages affixed at not less than $750 and not more than $30,000 per work infringed. For "willful" infringement, a court may award up to $150,000 per work infringed. A court can, in its discretion, also assess costs and attorneys' fees. For details, see Title 17, United States Code, Sections 504, 505.

    Willful copyright infringement can also result in criminal penalties, including imprisonment of up to five years and fines of up to $250,000 per offense.
Let's say you make a free animation with Mickey, Minnie and Goofy. If (when) The Mouse's lawyers are really good, they'll claim that's 3 works that have been wilfully infringed on. That's 150k * 3.
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by throwaway50634 on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @04:39PM (#37771407)
Using a generated image that looks like some character is not in any way infringing on copyright.
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by meepmorp on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @05:09PM (#37771839)
> Copyright applies when you reuse the exact artwork someone else created.

For your own sake, talk to an IP lawyer before you rely on this belief.

Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by throwaway50634 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @02:12AM (#37775398)
Have you talked to an IP lawyer?
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by theshrike79 on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @05:25PM (#37772019)
So you're claiming that if I draw a Mickey Mouse myself, I can do whatever I want with it. Disney's copyright doesn't apply?

You really need to look up what copyright is. It has the word "copy" in the name, but it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by throwaway50634 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @02:10AM (#37775392)
Yes, exactly. It's your own image. You might've based it on a trademark or another copyrighted work and that changes what you can do with your image and in what cases, but you own the copyright for the image you created.
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by freejazz on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @04:06PM (#37770912)
They can stop you from infringing.
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by syntaxing on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:36PM (#37770464)
For peasants like us, it of course is out of the question. But for a 800B company (Meta) vs a 150B company (Disney), the conversation is very different.
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by dagmx on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:20PM (#37770248)
It’s not a paid for feature, but it’s a project that is part of their monetization (ads, data etc) and continued engagement.

Put another way, it’s a value add for something that makes them money and not educational in nature either.

Otherwise one could use any IP for advertising their non-paid for products. Which for Meta is everything.

Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by JohnFen on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:47PM (#37770630)
Not making an assessment of this case, but not all use is fair use. Whether or not money is being charged for it generally isn't relevant to that determination.
Re:Facebook’s new AI stickers can generate Mickey Mouse hold... by crazygringo on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @04:42PM (#37771443)
If you look at the standard tests for fair use, how do you think this is fair use?

It's not in the context of education or criticism or even parody or anything else.

You can't sell a product and include Mickey Mouse stickers with it. This is basically that. (Even if users aren't purchasing, it's selling ads.)