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Re:Gunung Padang by keepamovin on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:11AM (#37761845)
You're comment is an example of why I wish HN had a block function.

I know people think that, I'm very aware of that, and I know I'm making myself vulnerable when I then reply like above and say, "Yes I'm watching Graham Hancock".

I anticipated that some jerk would say, "But you know Wikipedia says he's a conspiracy theorist crackpot loon, right? haha Lol", or similar.

And I don't like to feel scared that someone's gonna say something mean...because you can see I'm enjoying something, and you really think I want to hear that what I'm enjoying is some craziness? I'm enjoying this, I don't appreciate your characterization. How do you think I feel? Where's your empathy?

So it's like, you make yourself vulnerable online, and people take advantage of that and hurt you. So how to reply to that? Block them? Well, you can't on HN.

Share your feelings like above? With people who have already shown contempt for how you feel? How do you think that's going to go? Often, it goes like people just reply some form of "Hahah, I hurt you, Yes! lol"

Yeah, people are awful. Some people.

Or just respond with mockery? Because that's not being authentic to express my feelings about it, but I mean it's appropriate for someone who has already shown contempt for my feelings, right? So why not just respond with mockery?

Mockery: So you're so smart, and qualified, that you can just dismiss the entirety of this guy's 30 years or more of work as "utter nonsensical pseudoscience"? And you think you're being scientific with that "theory" that you have, right? I think the only pseudoscience is your opinion. Why are you desperate to have that opinion?

Then you have to question, why do people like you comment like that. Is it because, you are unhappy and looking for a fight, a way to project your unhappiness, to fake blame someone who is not the cause, so you can feel better about your own failures that are the cause?

I mean, you know what you're doing right? Analogy: say you're a Christian, and I see you comment that you such a great time at Church on Sunday, and I reply you with, "Yeah, it's nice you felt good hangin' with the parish and all, but you know that God is just a sky people delusion based on some mythological book that all these idiots think are true, right?"

How do you expect people to respond? With anger, right? Then, you are significant? Then you get to control them because you provoked an emotion? So control of others to substitute and make you feel better about a lack of control in your own life? A lack of significance? So you define yourself in opposition to get attention? It's funny to think that my attention gives you significance. Do all these words make you swell with pride, and purpose? I think people have a lot of reasons to look for fights.

Or, do you, take mockery out of it, take emotion of it and respond with cold, facts:

I get that you feel that way about Hancock, but that's not how it is. What evidence do you have to support your claim that "his 'theories' are, if we are being nice today, utter nonsensical pseudoscience"?

Or respond in some other way? There's always that option.

I find it funny that people being abusive online like you often seem like cowards, because rather than coming out and just saying it, they want to disguise partially their hostility with words like "nice". A bit of weasel word, I guess...to give them plausible deniability? "Look I said I was being nice." A colored sheath to disguise the dagger, right? I find it a paradox. Why be abusive if you're going to be a coward about it? Why not just own it? I guess it's like a survival tactic right? You want to keep being abusive, so you've learned to wear a mask, a little bit of "nice" here and there, so you can keep doing what you want to do. Is that right? Is that what you're like in real life to? Displaying the contempt you display for people's feelings online, what wrongs do you get up to there?

Let this be a lesson for you. I really think this kind of behavior is incredibly toxic. Almost like improving this should be a core mission of ensuring the development of a more positive internet, uhuh? And if you think you are a good person, you should reflect. I hope you do, anon. But you're not really, anon, are you, ES? Handsome guy like you, shouldn't be behaving like this. How'd your mother raise you? Maybe that's the problem. Maybe she didn't raise you right. Look, man, the world's gonna be a better place the more good people we have. Right now, you're not pulling your weight. And you should be--got it?

Re:Gunung Padang by tephra on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:24AM (#37761940)
I certainly didn't say that Wikipedia claims he is a loony conspiracy theorists (I am though implying that the scientific field of archaeology thinks that) and I didn't mock you, but if anything Graham Hancocks ideas (which are distinct from his person, something you ought to remember).

If you think my comment was toxic, well then I don't really know what to tell ya. I find it more toxic for our society to spread pseudoscience like Hancock does (which also has the effect of diminishing the accomplishments of other cultures, making it even worse).

Re:Gunung Padang by keepamovin on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @04:02AM (#37762209)
If you don't think it's toxic, I think you just got to think about it (and feel about it) a bit more.

Something I ought to remember? Come on, man: you chose what to say, and your timing. How sensitive do you think that is?

It's not all just about adjudicating ideas, you have to consider the people, too.

It would be good if you just reflect on it, let it work on you a bit, alright?

Re:Gunung Padang by aappleby on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:21AM (#37761912)
The first sentence of the wikipedia entry is literally "Graham Bruce Hancock (born 2 August 1950) is a British writer who promotes pseudoscientific[2][3] theories involving many ancient civilizations and lost lands."
Re:Gunung Padang by keepamovin on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @03:37AM (#37762049)
Yeah, that's what I was sayin' about Wikipedia, man.

Hey!--aren't you guy who originally developed SMHasher and murmur? What are you doing these days?

Re:Gunung Padang by 2malaq on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @08:48AM (#37764316)
Well, if it says so on Wikipedia it must be true.
Re:Gunung Padang by keepamovin on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @11:56PM (#37774768)
Exactly, right? Thanks for sayin' it! :)
Re:Gunung Padang by throwaway290 on Thursday October 05, 2023 @09:11AM (#37778150)
That's rich coming from someone who posted the link to Wikipedia in the first place
Re:Gunung Padang by keepamovin on Friday October 06, 2023 @05:51AM (#37788789)
Heh, I get what you mean. I'm not throwing out Wikipedia as a whole, but it does have a certain stance, you have to admit.