Re:Predictive Policing Software Is Pretty Terrible at Predic...
by standardUser on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:06PM
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>Isn't doing something regardless of potential consequences just another way to define desperate?
No, it is not. If you give a speech in front of a crowd you may embarrass yourself. Are you desperate to give that speech because there are potential consequences? If you go rock climbing you might fall and break your leg. Are you desperate to go rock climbing, simply because it involves risk? I don't see the logic at all.
Re:Predictive Policing Software Is Pretty Terrible at Predic...
by bumby on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:14PM
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You might be conflating the proximate and root causes of the act. I may not get in front of a crowd because I'm desperate to give a speech, but I may be desperate to keep my job, or desperate for status, or something else. Likewise, with rock-climbing, maybe I'm desperate for an adrenaline high or a novel experience. To be generous to the OP, I think "desperate" just means the gains from the experience outpace the perceived risks.
Re:Predictive Policing Software Is Pretty Terrible at Predic...
by ziddoap on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:16PM
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This is more aligned with what I poorly expressed, thanks.
Re:Predictive Policing Software Is Pretty Terrible at Predic...
by saulpw on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:20PM
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desperate: Having lost all hope; despairing.
It's just the wrong word, then, by a huge margin.
Re:Predictive Policing Software Is Pretty Terrible at Predic...
by bumby on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:41PM
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In such discussions, its usually better to strive to understand what the commenter actually meant rather than being pedantically correct. The OP clarified their point.
Re:Predictive Policing Software Is Pretty Terrible at Predic...
by ziddoap on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:22PM
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desperate: needing or wanting something very much (Cambridge Dictionary)
There's multiple definitions
Re:Predictive Policing Software Is Pretty Terrible at Predic...
by itishappy on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @05:00PM
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I think you actually make a good point for rock climbing being a desperate act. Most humans don't climb rocks. Whether out of complacency or fear, that feels pretty rational! Some choose to ignore the risks. Desperate for adventure, perhaps?
I don't give speeches to large crowds either, that sounds hella stressful. That won't stop me, but I'd have to be desperate for the respect or attention.
Isn't doing something regardless of potential consequences just another way to define desperate?
Edit: was attempting to be pithy, but apparently would need to spend quite a bit more time to get my point across (and, in the end, doesn't change/add to the discussion), so consider me wrong