Yeah, you can be the first out of the plane, or is that "we" working really hard there?

Does writing a check to Ukraine for military drone hardware count? I feel like jumping out of a plane is a very simple, inefficient path to success here.

> Also not an armchair warmonger...

You could have fooled me.

You (the USA) already did that by destroying the Nordstream pipelines. By doing so, you are responsible for the destruction of a huge amount of wealth in Europe, especially Germany. The US will have to pay for this, I'm certain! Funny, haven't you realized yet that the US has already lost the proxy war against Russia? If you're easy with conducting 'military strikes on infrastructure' of another country, then 'military strikes' against your country's infrastructure should also be conducted in return. And please don't complain, it is after all a legitimate means of foreign policy in your (US-centric) view.

>The US will have to pay for this

Germany (and Europe as a whole) is paying for this in the form of LNG imports from the US and the UAE.

It's not clear who actually destroyed the Nord Stream pipelines. There is significant circumstantial evidence of Ukrainian involvement. But we may never know for sure.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fresh-leads-point-to-poland-as-...

In any case, why would the US have to pay? It's not like anyone else has the power to extract a payment. In fact, for now the US is the country getting paid in the form of increased natural gas exports.

Do you really think that Ukraine destroys the pipelines without US-approval? Ukraine basically runs a 100% on US taxpayer money, additionally Germany is one of the most important providers of military aid to Ukraine, why the hell would they risk everything for little to no gain at all? This doesn't make sense. On the other side, POTUS openly said: "If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2.".

The US will have to pay twofolds, financially and morally. As Larry Johnson said: 'What has happened in Ukraine in the last 19 months — over 500,000 dead Ukrainians. What we’re talking about is something that is off the charts. There’s going to be blood on American hands. If there is such a thing as Karma, the US will have a terrible bill to pay."

Who knows? If the pipelines were destroyed by Ukrainians that doesn't necessarily imply that it was an official government sanctioned operation. Early in the war there were a variety of independent militia groups who kind of did their own thing and didn't always follow orders. We're all just speculating based on incomplete and unreliable evidence.

If you threaten to kill someone and he later turns up dead then the police will investigate you as a suspect. But the victim might have had other enemies who got him first.

As for the moral culpability, let's remember that Russia is the aggressor here. The USA hasn't killed any Ukrainians. And it's up to the Ukrainians to decide what price they're willing to pay.