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Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It by ncallaway on Monday October 02, 2023 @12:48PM (#37740809)
> So unless you have a job that requires minimal communication on a day-to-day basis, an office is superior for productivity.

If that’s the standard then the commute time should be billed to the employer. That way they can weigh the full benefits of the productivity gain of in person communication, against the dramatic efficiency loss of 100 employees commuting to work.

If employers want the productivity benefit of in office communication, they can pay employees for their drive/walk/transit time.

Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It by asmor on Monday October 02, 2023 @01:05PM (#37741102)
"8 hours for work, 8 hours for rest, 8 hours for what we will" taken seriously
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It by gedy on Monday October 02, 2023 @05:26PM (#37744642)
If you are on salary (as most devs are), I think it's pretty reasonable to include commute time in "workday" and not assume 8-9 hours in office on top of that.
Re:Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It by ncallaway on Monday October 02, 2023 @05:53PM (#37744971)
I think that’s reasonable, but most management for most workers that are pushing RTO would not describe it as reasonable.

I’d encourage everyone to have the conversation with their manager so the expectations are consistent.