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Re:Don't worry about global population collapse by sampo on Sunday October 01, 2023 @10:38AM (#37726337)
> Berlin until about 5 years ago had incredibly affordable housing for such a nice city

Berlin, and may I add Vienna, are anomalies. Vienna's population peaked in 1910. Berlin's population peaked in 1943. They were both capitals of an empire at their peak time. Then they became less important, and their population decreased. Now they have been in a very unique situation with their new population growth, because they already were designed for a larger population.

You can't generalize from Berlin and Vienna to other, more normal, cities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_of_Vienna.svg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin#/media/File:Berlin_popu...

Re:Don't worry about global population collapse by seanmcdirmid on Sunday October 01, 2023 @03:56PM (#37729943)
Yes. I’ve heard Berlin has been pricing up lately regardless. Maybe they’ve already worked through their historic inventory.
Re:Don't worry about global population collapse by Apfel on Monday October 02, 2023 @03:23AM (#37734925)
This makes a lot of sense. I think my own city (Glasgow) used to be considerably larger when it was an industrial powerhouse in shipbuilding and textiles and has fairly cheap housing nowadays as a result.

It's been getting a bit more expensive due to Chinese students and also people moving north from England but it's still very affordable compared to most places.

Re:Don't worry about global population collapse by horsestaple on Monday October 02, 2023 @04:30AM (#37735396)
True if you look at the cities, but it misses the bigger picture. There was also a trend of people moving into the surrounding suburbs and smaller towns, and commuting to the inner city. If you look at the metro area, both have actually grown.

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/204296/berlin/population

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20107/vienna/population

Re:Don't worry about global population collapse by tin7in on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @04:03PM (#37756819)
Not sure about Berlin but in the case of Vienna, social housing and legislation (Mietrechtsgesetz) are big factors. 25% of Vienna’s population lives in social housing which in turn regulates the market.