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Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by dharmab on Sunday October 01, 2023 @04:17AM (#37723879)
It is a standard feature of an ECE, FIM or even Snell rated helmet. Even modular helmets have the same chinbar testing as full face helmets.

I can't speak for DOT helmets, since that standard is untrustable for a variety of reasons anyway.

Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by igravious on Monday October 02, 2023 @07:59AM (#37737037)
Someone deacronymize plz :(
Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by wlonkly on Monday October 02, 2023 @11:11AM (#37739174)
All various motorcycle helmet standards. ECE is the EU standard, DOT is the US Department of Transportation standard, FIM is another, stricter EU standard (Functional Independence Measure), and Snell is not an acronym but is an independent safety testing organization.
Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by dharmab on Monday October 02, 2023 @02:00PM (#37741989)
FIM is Federation Internationale de Motorcyclisme - here referring to their standard for MotoGP and World Superbike helmets.

ECE is a United Nations standard that the EU has chosen to require for helmets sold in the EU.

Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by wlonkly on Monday October 02, 2023 @02:10PM (#37742130)
Ah, thanks! Admittedly I Googled that one, it didn't feel right...
Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by eddythompson80 on Monday October 02, 2023 @10:36PM (#37747281)
Also when I was buying my motorcycle gear (8 years ago) the general conses I recall is that ECE ~= DOT. Not sure what OP means regarding DOT certification.
Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by wlonkly on Monday October 02, 2023 @10:42PM (#37747330)
ECE is stricter than DOT, although it has a couple of shortcomings.

It sounds like upthread the poster thought that ECE doesn't allow half or 3/4 helmets, but they do.

Re:Every single Onewheel is being recalled after four deaths by dharmab on Tuesday October 03, 2023 @02:45AM (#37748649)
DOT:

- is nearly 50 years old without meaningful changes to reflect half a century of head injury and brain injury research

- has significantly lower standards for how much force can be transmitted through the helmet to your skull - well within values that commonly cause skull fracture

- does not have any brain injury criteria for rotational trauma

- does not have any independent random testing, and limited independent random test studies have found 50% of labeled helmets don't meet the standard

The last point is especially frightening! ECE has fixed all of these issues. Fortnine's videos on this (and the problems with Snell 2020R/2020D) are a great place to learn more.