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Re:DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google w... by defrost on Sunday October 01, 2023 @12:12AM (#37722466)
The US Government created Microsoft Corporation as the first company to hold a pure monopoly position on personal computer operating systems?

And then prosecuted them under US antitrust legislation?

Standard Oil Company and the American Tobacco Company were also US Government monopolies?

That sound a little off.

Perhaps your use of "almost always" needs to be dialed back a notch .. or a lot.

Re:DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google w... by scarface_74 on Sunday October 01, 2023 @12:26AM (#37722535)
And the antitrust lawsuit had absolutely no effect on MS’s desktop market share. It was the free market that allowed Apple and Google to usurp Microsoft’s influence via mobile and the web.
Re:DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google w... by defrost on Sunday October 01, 2023 @03:54AM (#37723751)
Your comment has little to do with the nonsense being spouted about monopolies almost always being due to government.

"Free market" isn't a particularly well defined concept given the broad range of its interpretation and use, eg: Churchill's "Land is the mother of all monopoly" comment wrt land ownership dragging down a truly 'free' market., etc.

Re:DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google w... by scarface_74 on Sunday October 01, 2023 @09:43AM (#37725880)
Your quote also has little to do with Google. There is no lack of real estate on the internet.
Re:DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google w... by pdonis on Sunday October 01, 2023 @02:10PM (#37728701)
Microsoft didn't have a monopoly on PC operating systems. They did get gifted a huge market share by IBM making not one, but two bonehead moves, first giving MS the license to DOS and then dawdling on OS/2 long enough for Bill Gates to lose patience and ship Windows 3. But MS never had a monopoly. Apple shipped PCs with their own OS. IBM had their own version of DOS and shipped PCs with it. There were even still CP/M machines around for a while. And there was Atari and Commodore, each of which shipped their own PCs with their own OSes. Then Unix variants began to be available for PCs.

Standard Oil wasn't a monopoly either. There were other oil companies in the business. But Standard Oil was selling oil, at a profit, at lower prices and in greater quantities than any of its competitors. The competitors didn't like that and got the government to break up Standard Oil under antitrust law. Which, as I've said, made things worse for customers.

In other words, if the competition simply doesn't compete very well, or makes bonehead decisions, a company can get a large market share, yes. But "large market share" is not the same as "monopoly".

If you want a better example of government created monopoly, look at ISPs in many areas of the US, where for many years state and local governments gave one company exclusive rights to sell Internet access in particular areas. With the expected result that Internet access sucked as compared to areas where there was competition. Much of that has gone away now, and Internet access as a result is much improved in those areas.

Re:DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google w... by ngcc_hk on Wednesday October 04, 2023 @08:36PM (#37773542)
AT&T and its black telephone.

Some goods are more and the mix of regulation, property right, …

There is no rule here.

Re:DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google w... by pdonis on Sunday October 08, 2023 @03:46PM (#37813795)
> AT&T and its black telephone.

Government granted monopoly.