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Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by cwoolfe on Friday September 29, 2023 @02:47PM (#37708560)
Given that the device is plugged in, trusted, shows up as a computer, and requires external power, it has all the connections it needs spy on the screen (at minimum) and remote control the victim iPhone without permission in the worst case. (it has video feed, and can emulate USB keyboard and mouse) Yikes!
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by mtreis86 on Friday September 29, 2023 @03:42PM (#37709198)
How hackable is it? That could be useful
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by jjoonathan on Friday September 29, 2023 @03:43PM (#37709202)
Integrating everything into USB has been great at physical simplification, but it really opened up the attack surface.

First party malware is the worst.

Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by kibwen on Friday September 29, 2023 @04:29PM (#37709730)
From the photos, this looks like a Lightning cable, not a USB cable.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by mutex_man on Friday September 29, 2023 @06:37PM (#37710924)
They're referring to the USB protocol, which lightning uses.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by tavavex on Friday September 29, 2023 @07:38PM (#37711402)
Can't wait for the consumer keyboard that saves everything that was typed to it and/or executes things on its own
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by fragmede on Friday September 29, 2023 @09:22PM (#37712021)
usb keyloggers have existed since just after USB came out, and badusb is totally a thing.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by tavavex on Friday September 29, 2023 @10:09PM (#37712227)
They have, but all of them are "personalized" attacks - as in, a malicious person needs to install these on specifically your computer, without your knowledge. What I was talking about is some kind of device from some noname Chinese manufacturer that presents as harmless, but actually sends off some additional data back home
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by parker_mountain on Friday September 29, 2023 @10:21PM (#37712275)
Yeah, it was sold to schools in the 90s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaSmart

Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by tavavex on Saturday September 30, 2023 @01:18AM (#37712954)
Oh yeah, I remember reading about the AlphaSmart somewhere! Though it is quite different from an ordinary-keyboard-looking spying device that I tried to describe in my original comment. The AlphaSmart feels like more of a digital typewriter that just had a really primitive data transfer method
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by nikau on Friday September 29, 2023 @11:04PM (#37712477)
Not at all.

Usbc is just the connector.

Running display port graphics over usbc is no less safe than using a bigger display port connector.

Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by brookst on Friday September 29, 2023 @11:32PM (#37712579)
Can a rogue displayport peripheral present as a storage device, keyboard, etc?
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by nikau on Saturday September 30, 2023 @12:08AM (#37712703)
Answer is "it depends".

USB-C always has a usb2 channel available, then 4 lanes that can be display port or thunderbolt or usb2/3 or whatever else.

This is why most android phones have options for USB including "charge only".

Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by lathiat on Saturday September 30, 2023 @03:01AM (#37713318)
Right but a normal DisplayPort or Mini DisplayPort connector doesn’t have USB…
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by goosedragons on Friday September 29, 2023 @09:20PM (#37712008)
It's not THAT weird. Lightning can't carry HDMI at all so even Apple's official adaptor is essentially setting up an Airplay connection over USB and has an ARM SoC to handle it. I'm guessing 3rd parties can't do the same trick without Apple's blessing which results in scary seeming workarounds.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by tymscar on Friday September 29, 2023 @09:46PM (#37712129)
Do you have a source on that? I ask because it’s genuinely such a cool thing but I can’t find anything about it online even though I have seen this mentioned before.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by cma on Friday September 29, 2023 @09:54PM (#37712170)
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by tymscar on Friday September 29, 2023 @09:57PM (#37712186)
Seems to have been debunked.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by parker_mountain on Friday September 29, 2023 @10:20PM (#37712272)
The premise (low end soc streaming video over usb) is not debunked at all.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by kalleboo on Friday September 29, 2023 @10:59PM (#37712455)
There are lots of third-party HDMI adapters for cheap on Amazon that work as a clone of Apple's with no need for any software. Might not be legal but they do work.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by upwardbound on Saturday September 30, 2023 @01:51AM (#37713071)
Agreed. If you want to prove to yourself that this vulnerability is real, consider that you can replicate the hypothesized malicious device you describe by taking a WiFi Duck https://wifiduck.com/ and combining it with a regular lightning-to-HDMI adapter by plugging the WiFi Duck into the extra lightning port on the HDMI adapter. All that would be needed to use this attack on an unsuspecting victim would be to combine the WiFi Duck and the HDMI adapter functionality into a small enough circuit board to fit into the Apple-style white enclosure.
Re:I Tested an HDMI Adapter That Demands Your Location and S... by TheHappyOddish on Sunday October 01, 2023 @09:08AM (#37725590)
Can you pull video and input both emulated keyboard and mouse via a lightning port, all concurrently, or is that theoretical?

I was mulling over a (legitimate) project recently and couldn't find any information about them all together.