Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by sixstringtheory on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @01:40AM
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> If the ecosystem relies on app inspections that much it simply needs to be secured better.
How do you secure something without inspection? We have health code inspections for restaurants, car safety and emissions inspections, IAEA inspectors visiting nuclear facilities… Should we throw all those out too? What replaces them, the goodwill and word of people?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by unethical_ban on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @02:18AM
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The ostrich is saying that the technical sandbox controls of the is will still be present.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by sixstringtheory on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @03:12AM
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Those will never be good enough to overcome social engineering.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by unethical_ban on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @12:13PM
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The OP... The technical controls of the OS...
Autocorrect and a lack of editing are a bad combo.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by thfuran on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @02:51AM
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In this analogy, getting to design the system on which the apps run is something like being able to alter the local laws of physics so that car exhaust simply can't contain pollution.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by wkat4242 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:50AM
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What I mean is, the OS should not allow apps to do these things. Rather than inspecting the code and strictly banning any dynamic code (one of the reasons emulators are not allowed), the apps should just not be allowed to do things like call hidden APIs at OS level.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by danielheath on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:55AM
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They don’t read the code afaik; they prevent memory page being marked both write and execute (with an exception for javascriptcore specifically).
W^X pages are one of the most widespread sources of RCE bugs, and banning them by default is a good idea.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by robertlagrant on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:26AM
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> If the ecosystem relies on app inspections that much it simply needs to be secured better.
How likely is this when Apple aren't getting paid for apps any more? Who should pay for it?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by wkat4242 on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:49AM
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No what I mean is that regardless of the apps that run, there should be no way to circumvent it. The OS should enforce this.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
by robertlagrant on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @06:04AM
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It's not always that simple. What if I make an app that asks for some data from you "for it to function", and then posts that data to somewhere it shouldn't, there's not a lot to be done about that from an OS enforcement perspective.
Also running a third party store does not have to mean being able to break privacy protections. If the ecosystem relies on app inspections that much it simply needs to be secured better.