News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by HWR_14 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:13PM (#37667165)
Why should we have to let things get worse. Break up Meta and Google and MS and then talk to me about how we don't need Apple's store anymore. Don't remove the solution and then tell me you'll fix the problem later.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by kibwen on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:16PM (#37667200)
This same argument can be used to block any action, forever. We have to start somewhere, and here is good enough.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by shuckles on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:24PM (#37667287)
So you do see downsides but you are personally willing to live with them?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:46PM (#37667513)
It’s hard to believe this question was asked in good faith. What did they write that makes you think they admitted to there being downsides?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by shuckles on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @07:52PM (#37667571)
The commenter started by saying they didn't see any downsides. Someone replied referring to specific downsides which impacted them (""use Meta omni-permission store or get cut off from FB/IG/WhatsApp"). Then the commenter said downsides don't matter because they can be used to argue against any change. That's a different argument than where they started.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @08:08PM (#37667763)
> "use Meta omni-permission store or get cut off from FB/IG/WhatsApp"

They replied to the comment which said this and wrote, "I see no downsides." I don’t see where they admitted to the downsides.

Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by shuckles on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @10:00PM (#37668858)
That's not the comment I replied to. I replied to the comment where they offered no argument for why someone else's downside was invalid, instead opting to say that it's better to not let downsides prevent action. The lack of argument implied they didn't have a response, which I sought to confirm.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by maxwell on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @09:34PM (#37668618)
Nope, no downsides.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by shuckles on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @10:01PM (#37668866)
You can believe whatever you want, but try not to impose it on others.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by HWR_14 on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @11:48PM (#37669824)
Likely they use Android, but are upset other people are using their devices wrong. So, to them, what downsides?
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by danielheath on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @05:58AM (#37672536)
I mean… literally every complex judgement call in human history comes down to this answer; real life is mostly made of imperfect options with various tradeoffs.
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by shuckles on Wednesday September 27, 2023 @04:28PM (#37680795)
"This is a complex judgment call, and I think forcing side loading is a reasonable conclusion in light of varied impacts" is a very different point of view than "I don't see any downsides."
Re:EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals by nvy on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @11:43PM (#37669771)
>Break up Meta and Google and MS...

Don't threaten me with a good time.