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Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by wffurr on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:45PM (#37646768)
Why bother with Starlink if the fiberoptic subsea cable is live now?
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by ZeWaka on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:56PM (#37646987)
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by justrealist on Monday September 25, 2023 @01:25PM (#37647471)
> Due to delays in finalising designs for the new network, it is now accepted that it will not be completed by January 2024

If they haven't finalized the design, I'd say they've got a ways to go.

Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by wffurr on Monday September 25, 2023 @03:32PM (#37649323)
Is that for the cable or FTTP deployment on the island itself? Seems like they could at least get much better mobile internet rates using the subsea cable instead of satellite for backhaul.

I had a very difficult time trying to figure out if that subsea cable was online or not.

Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by Tijdreiziger on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:14PM (#37653876)
Per the ISP (Sure), it does appear to have been rolled out: https://www.sure.co.sh/assets/Banner-Links/PRESS-RELEASE-Con...
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by fidotron on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:57PM (#37647002)
You still have to run the cable the last mile, even on an island.
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by Tijdreiziger on Monday September 25, 2023 @01:18PM (#37647357)
Not necessarily, we have wireless technologies. Stringing cables along poles could well be cheaper, though.
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by Scoundreller on Monday September 25, 2023 @03:26PM (#37649240)
I’m thinking with 4G, 5g, one day 6g and one day 7g, physical data infra’s days are numbered or will become a premium product at the residential level.

Except in Canada and elsewhere where the mobile and wireline providers are the same and deliberately keep mobile pricing high enough to disincentivize cord cutting.

Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by wffurr on Monday September 25, 2023 @04:24PM (#37650080)
None of those create more radio spectrum. I don't see a real replacement for wireline fiber and ethernet ever.
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by Scoundreller on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:40PM (#37651084)
Each "g" let us modulate more data in the same channel size. Spectrum re-use via smaller cells is virtually limitless.

And we're re-allocating more spectrum for 2-way data regularly.

Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by BenjiWiebe on Monday September 25, 2023 @07:14PM (#37652057)
But if the cells keep getting smaller, at some point it will be cheaper to just bury that one fiber to beat out 12G plus the next 5 generations, rather than buy another cell to cover that one household.
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by lxgr on Monday September 25, 2023 @01:45PM (#37647768)
Redundancy is also nice – given how remote Saint Helena is, I could imagine repairs taking quite some time.
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by KennyBlanken on Monday September 25, 2023 @03:14PM (#37649048)
Because the government seems highly regressive and is almost certainly controlling and monitoring the one cable they've allowed?
Re:Saint Helena Island Communications by alwa on Tuesday September 26, 2023 @09:02AM (#37658665)
I’m curious where you get that impression. From their public communications, they seem to me like a pretty chill bunch. And from the size of the island, I’m not sure the advantage of snooping on the wires versus just gossiping around town. That’s assuming you could find and pay enough qualified staff to do the analysis, given that “anything to do with a computer” is on the “shortage occupation” list that automatically qualifies you for a work permit. [0]

Even in this hand-wavy announcement clutching their pearls at Starlink, they were careful to build in an extra few months for people to finish importing and hiding their Starlink terminals before they might start sending sternly-worded letters...

[0] https://www.sainthelena.gov.sh/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Sh... (PDF)