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Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by joshstrange on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:20AM (#37643322)
> I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally.

This is my best guess as well, they are rocketing down the interstate at 200mph and just trying to keep the wheels on the car. When you're absolutely killing it I guess making X% more by being better at messaging just isn't worth it since to do that you'd have to take someone off something potentially more critical. Still makes me a little sad though.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by vdfs on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:25AM (#37643400)
> When you're absolutely killing it

Aren't they unprofitable? and have fierce competition from everyone?

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by dcow on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:53AM (#37643826)
Whether or not you’re profitable has very little to do with how valuable others think you are. And usually having competitors is something that validates your market.
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by hef19898 on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:24AM (#37644296)
The same can be said about food delivery start ups.
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by Tactician_mark on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:12AM (#37645157)
> And usually having competitors is something that validates your market.

Don't users validate your market? ChatGPT has plenty of users, so I would think competitors only hurt their value.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by michaelt on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:19PM (#37646352)
Well, it depends.

Clearly, you can be a company like Microsoft where nobody is challenging your dominance in PC operating systems, and you can make huge sums of money. So competitors certainly aren't vital.

Or if you've cleverly sewn up a market with patents or trade secrets or a giant first-mover advantage or network effects, and nobody's got any chance of challenging your dominance in your specific market niche - again that could be highly profitable.

On the other hand, if you're selling ten-dollar bills for five dollars, you might have millions of satisfied paying customers, but no competitors because nobody else thinks your unit economics make sense. Or if you run a DVD rental store, you might be profitable and have many return customers, but you might not attract competitors because they don't think DVD rental is a growth business.

So some people consider a lack of competition an ominous sign.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by iudqnolq on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:54AM (#37645930)
> And usually having competitors is something that validates your market

a whole bunch of AI startups were founded around the same time. surely each can't validate the market for the others and be validated by the others in turn

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by TeMPOraL on Monday September 25, 2023 @05:58PM (#37651294)
The surviving ones can. The same way that multiple species of trees, growing on the same patch of the ground, desperately competing for sunlight, together validate that the soil underneath is fertile.
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by tomjen3 on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:27AM (#37645420)
Even if they are unprofitable they can get VC money very easily.

Plus they make 20 dollars a month from a lot of people.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by jprete on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:35AM (#37643564)
When dealing with a tech where people have credible reasons to believe it can be enormously harmful on every possible time scale, maybe it would behoove them to not rocket down the interstate at 200mph?
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by dcow on Monday September 25, 2023 @09:53AM (#37643835)
Thats not what the analogy means. 200mph refers to funding.
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by edgyquant on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:11AM (#37644075)
No it refers to them moving too fast to send out basic emails for feature updates, per this comment chain.
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by bergen on Monday September 25, 2023 @10:52AM (#37644815)
Then use that funding to hire one PR guy who is 1/4 the expenses of an AI developer?
Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by tomjen3 on Monday September 25, 2023 @11:31AM (#37645478)
There is always going to be people who against any new technology and who makes up reasons to be against it.

The best defence is to move so quickly that you are an established part of the business framework by the time these forces can gather, or to go so slowly that nobody takes you as a threat.

No startup can go slowly.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by isx726552 on Monday September 25, 2023 @12:15PM (#37646273)
In other words, make your money and ride off into the sunset before anyone can catch on to how much damage you’re doing to society.

Otherwise known as the AirBnB playbook.

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by tomjen3 on Monday September 25, 2023 @01:24PM (#37647459)
No, successfully navigate past this version of Covid vacine deniers, 5g conspiracists etc.

In ten years we will enjoy a higher productivity due to AI and a richer society as a result. We have already seen it with protein folding which AI is amazing at[0].

The only reasonable fear of AI is for some jobs and that China gets their first.

[0]: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02083-2

Re:ChatGPT can now see, hear, and speak – openai.com by pixl97 on Monday September 25, 2023 @01:56PM (#37647928)
Right, it is perfectly valid to only accept the potential good points while neglecting all the potential bad points.

This is no different then saying "Look, nuclear weapons aren't actually dangerous, if they were we'd all be dead because the apocalypse would have already happened", which is probably the dumbest take on the close calls and real risks that exist.