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Re:Croatia demolished houses of libertarian project “Liberla... by dragonwriter on Sunday September 24, 2023 @04:52PM (#37637088)
The Russo-Ukrainian war started as a large scale invasion of Ukraine, largely from Russias leased bases (inherited from the USSR and granted leases as part of thr settlement of the breakup of the USSR) in Crimea, leading to the seizure and illegal annexation of Crimea simultaneously with large scale fighting in the Donbas.

It didn't start as small scale fighting over borders in the Donbas.

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Re:Croatia demolished houses of libertarian project “Liberla... by TeMPOraL on Sunday September 24, 2023 @05:05PM (#37637190)
The invasion was a follow-up of events going back to 2014 and earlier. It didn't happen out of the blue.
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Re:Croatia demolished houses of libertarian project “Liberla... by dragonwriter on Sunday September 24, 2023 @06:08PM (#37637642)
> The invasion was a follow-up of events going back to 2014 and earlier.

The large scale invasion from leased bases in Crimea occurred in 2014.

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Re:Croatia demolished houses of libertarian project “Liberla... by BoorishBears on Sunday September 24, 2023 @05:19PM (#37637297)
We're in 2023, where the war in Donbas has erupted into an all out ground war in Ukraine covering at least 3x as much area, by comparison the original fight was a small scale conflict...

This is that kind of nitpicking where you just make yourself seem lost in the conversation by taking an argumentative tone: Crimea and Donbas are both just examples of my point that pining for a world where borders are seen as flexible and flowing isn't really logical. Arguing that they were even larger just furthers my point.

We're in a fully globalized world. Things are past the stage where anyone besides large countries looking to bully will actually be able to move borders and keep them there. It doesn't really take propaganda to understand why that is: just looking at the current world is enough.

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