I'm not real bright, can you highlight and quote the exact phrase used above that you object to? (Was it "Shelly" perhaps?)
> argument for veganism was never about not killing animals but about how much suffering factory-farmed animals go through
So, to be clear here, you're absolutely A-OK with the traditional steppe herding practices of treating animals well and then, when needing to kill them for meat, hugging them and quickly cutting open the chest and directly stopping the heart?
It's a well cared for life with as rapid and relatively painless death as can be wished for.
Not resorting to ad hominem arguments is a good start
> So, to be clear here, you're absolutely A-OK...
It is not about what I think, it is about what are the contemporary arguments for veganism or vegetarianism. If you care about the suffering of factory-farmed (or not factory-farmed) animals, good for you. How far you want to take that is entirely up to you. Some people eat less meat, others avoid all animal products.
So I apologize for assuming that you were attempting to narrow the focus, but once again, you don't speak for all vegans, and Hindus, Jains and Buddhists all still exist.
The basic idea is the suffering of animals, factory-farmed or not. If you can recognise that, good for you. How far you want to take that is entirely up to you.
> you don't speak for all vegans
I have never claimed to if you actually read what I wrote.
Now you're trying to rewrite history to appeal to people in the PETA and Upton Sinclair traditions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle
You can say what you want about your personal reasons, but don't pretend that all vegans have this narrow focus.