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Re:Earth’s average 2023 temperature is now likely to reach 1... by pipo234 on Friday September 22, 2023 @04:55PM (#37617653)
Indeed.

I think I recently heard Cory Doctorow phrase it like this: Both pessimists and optimists are essentially fatalists. Ie.: at the core it's more important to believe you can make a change, than to "know" what "will" happen.

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Re:Earth’s average 2023 temperature is now likely to reach 1... by dredmorbius on Friday September 22, 2023 @06:50PM (#37618803)
That's Doctorow's prescription of hope rather than "optimism" or "pessimism".

Hope reserves agency.

Optimism and pessimism both presume an outcome regardless of action, and absolve responsibility.

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Re:Earth’s average 2023 temperature is now likely to reach 1... by DicIfTEx on Saturday September 23, 2023 @02:48AM (#37621136)
As a counterpoint, Derrick Jensen's “Beyond Hope”: https://orionmagazine.org/article/beyond-hope/
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Re:Earth’s average 2023 temperature is now likely to reach 1... by dredmorbius on Saturday September 23, 2023 @08:55AM (#37622844)
That reminds me of Ashleigh Brilliant's aphorism: "I feel much better now that I've given up hope".

<https://www.ashleighbrilliant.com/book4.html>

That's more about hope as expectation than hope as possibility, I think. And that's certainly Jensen's vibe.

Thanks for the reference.

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