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Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Friday September 22, 2023 @10:46AM (#37612749)
Other than DRM, what's not to like about Steam policies?
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by sangnoir on Friday September 22, 2023 @11:03AM (#37612984)
I don't know if this is accurate, but IIRC, if you're banned, you lose access to even the single-player games in your collection.
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by Ekaros on Friday September 22, 2023 @11:16AM (#37613148)
I don't think that happens. You might lose access to features and multiplayer, but not the games you own.

At worst, you cannot buy more games or gifts or trade your items. But you can still download the single player games you already have.

EDIT: Generally it seems account suspension is possible, but that usually means they noticed something illegal or extremely suspicious activity.

Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by Quikinterp on Friday September 22, 2023 @11:10AM (#37613075)
That sounds odd, because how does your steam account even get banned? If you cheat in a game and get banned, your steam account isn't banned
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by lvass on Friday September 22, 2023 @11:56AM (#37613684)
AFAIK most horror stories are from people who move between countries, particularly from one with "cheaper" prices like Argentina to one with more expensive ones. Not sure if the account itself gets banned but the games previously bought do get locked out.
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by mjh2539 on Friday September 22, 2023 @03:06PM (#37616298)
Back in the day playing on VAC servers and attempting to use exploits would get your whole account banned.
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by alexb_ on Friday September 22, 2023 @10:52AM (#37612824)
They've caught a TON of criticism for Counterstrike cases, which is where they make an absolute crapload of money. I don't think it's a big deal, but others do.
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by belltaco on Friday September 22, 2023 @11:30AM (#37613353)
Taking 30% of indie developers revenues while being a near monopoly, so indie devs have to be on Steam. Something like Epic's 12% would be a fair cut given storage and bandwidth costs have gone down over the years. Being able to keep an additional 18% of their game's revenue would be huge for developers. Some may call it rent-seeking.
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Friday September 22, 2023 @12:10PM (#37613851)
Ah, that's a fair criticism.
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by ric2b on Friday September 22, 2023 @12:10PM (#37613853)
They're a monopoly in the same way that Amazon is: they're not, there are plenty of popular alternatives and publishers aren't locked from selling wherever else they want.

They're just the biggest player and the 30% cut is worth it for all the additional sales.

Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by belltaco on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:20PM (#37615678)
>there are plenty of popular alternatives

Like what? GoG? And what else?

Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by xcdzvyn on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:35PM (#37615886)
Epic Games comes to mind. Or just buy the game from the developers.
Re:Valve is a wonderful upstream contributor to Linux and th... by no_time on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:50PM (#37616071)
Erosion of the concept of ownership. I can lose access to the content I have paid full price for through no fault of my own. Just because they've decided to no longer support the platform I've never stopped using. Also not being able to resell the product I supposedly "own".

To be fair, none of these things were pioneered by Valve, but more of a general change in what society accepts as the new normal.

Even though I can remove SteamStub DRM with an automatic tool to solve these issues, It still irks me how there isn't a regulatory solution to these problems