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Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by jvm___ on Friday September 22, 2023 @12:55AM (#37608025)
Is the water I drink the same water I pee? Or does it get taken apart and put back together with different pieces?
Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by c54 on Friday September 22, 2023 @01:09AM (#37608127)
Metabolism converts sugars and oxygen to carbon dioxide and water. Fire has the same inputs and outputs too! You can think of metabolism as releasing the same energy as fire but with more steps so our bodies can harness and use the energy via various other chemical reactions.

Most of the water from metabolism is released in your breath. Water you pee is mostly water you ingested via drinking and eating.

Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by mjan22640 on Friday September 22, 2023 @04:37AM (#37609510)
How do the kidneys identify the H2O molecules origin?
Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by diarrhea on Friday September 22, 2023 @05:09AM (#37609722)
It’s a tagged Union with associated data (the molecule), released in edition Homo Erectus. Pretty nifty feature a lot of other species lack. Abstract Human Types are much more powerful than what Homo Go can offer, for example.
Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by JshWright on Friday September 22, 2023 @07:12AM (#37610504)
The water you exhale is just the amount of water that happens to evaporate in your respiratory tract/lungs. The water you urinate is whatever "extra" water is left over (based on a bunch of factors like blood pressure, how much stuff is dissolved in you blood, etc).

The water that leaves via your lungs and the water that leaves via your kidneys all had to get there via your blood. There's no distinction made based on the "source" of that water.

Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by c54 on Friday September 22, 2023 @05:28PM (#37618028)
Yes agreed fair enough
Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by lloeki on Friday September 22, 2023 @07:14AM (#37610515)
> Most of the water from metabolism is released in your breath

And the reason for that is that air is bad for heat exchange and transport, water is much better, and evaporates! While the body passively cools in air (either directly when air is colder or via sweat evaporation when air is too hot) most of the heat exchange happens actively via breathing, which is nice because it's easy and quick to adjust, just by breathing faster or slower, so as to maintain 37ish C-100ish F while the body is continuously burning molecules. Without breathing we'd not only lack comburant (oxygen), we'd overheat pretty quickly!

Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by JshWright on Friday September 22, 2023 @08:49PM (#37619640)
The primary driver for your respiratory rate is the pH of your blood. For instance, metabolic disorders that result in a drop in blood pH will result in an increase in respiratory rate/depth (e.g. Kussmaul breathing). As far as I know (with a fairly deep anatomy and physiology background) there is no mechanism by which body temperature can directly influence respiratory rate. If your respiratory rate increased just to get rid of heat, you’d also be blowing off more carbon dioxide and would end up in a state of respiratory alkalosis.

As you mentioned, sweat is also evaporating water, and that is a much more effective way of dumping heat.

Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by nojvek on Friday September 22, 2023 @01:04AM (#37608086)
Same H2O molecules, different levels of other molecules mixed in with it.

It is possible to recycle urine into drinkable water. That’s what they do in international space station where water is very precious.

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/wat...

Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by kolinko on Friday September 22, 2023 @02:32AM (#37608613)
They also do it in Singapore iirc.
Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by thombat on Friday September 22, 2023 @05:14AM (#37609754)
I'm curious why this would be worthwhile: since Singapore is an island conventional desalination would seem easier than either coping with the witches' brew of sewage (random amounts of random chemicals) or the expense of plumbing urine separately.
Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by Cthulhu_ on Friday September 22, 2023 @05:37AM (#37609902)
Seem being the key word here; if it's plain sewage, there's affordable, scalable and relatively low energy ways to turn it back into clean drinking water, vs desalinization which requires a lot of energy still.

But it's not just sewage though, it's chemicals as well, e.g. from medication, plus whatever else gets flushed.

Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by thombat on Friday September 22, 2023 @06:58AM (#37610427)
Exactly: all the sewage systems I know of process it enough to dump into a sea or river, where even if a downstream town draws drinking water from it the dilution with other water plus additional environmental chemistry reduces the purification problem.

In Singapore's case the sea is the obvious sink for treated sewage, which kicks it back to desalination. Except that I believe that Singapore's water comes across the causeway to the mainland in a pipe.

Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by bbor on Friday September 22, 2023 @05:17AM (#37609766)
Re:NASA’s Webb finds carbon source on surface of Jupiter’s m... by Cthulhu_ on Friday September 22, 2023 @05:35AM (#37609889)
The Urine of Theseus, lol