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Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by zamadatix on Thursday September 21, 2023 @04:59PM (#37604256)
How many is unlimited? Presumably they don't get unlimited searches for $10 and, inevitably, someone will use more than they planned for. How much more than they expected is considered "fair use" or however they want to term it and why can't I know that before I sign up instead of guess I'm within what they are thinking?
Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by crisp on Thursday September 21, 2023 @05:20PM (#37604522)
While I think your questions are definitely relevant, in practice, you search less than you think.

I consider myself as a heavy search engine user but, based on Kagi stats, I was surprised how much less I actually searched compared to my estimate. My actual range is about 500-800 queries a month when I originally estimated upwards 1500 queries a month.

Same thing with my friends.

Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by zamadatix on Friday September 22, 2023 @01:39PM (#37615074)
I tried Kagi and ended up hitting limits. Unlimited sounds nice, especially since I don't need to worry about how I'm "running out of searchers" so to say, but only once I know how much it actually is instead of just assuming "well, most people don't search much".
Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by gnud on Thursday September 21, 2023 @05:16PM (#37604469)
I'm assuming they disallow bot use in their TOS. So they can probably offer unlimited searches that you run yourself by typing in the terms.
Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by zamadatix on Friday September 22, 2023 @01:43PM (#37615121)
For $10 their cost for someone constantly typing new searches is significantly negative. It's surprisingly expensive for them to do a search and doing 1 search every 30 seconds for 8 hours is ~3x more than the cap of their $5 tier. I'm not saying that's a reasonable usage case for me I'm just saying the limit on profitability occurs SIGNFICANTLY sooner than "as fast as you can type for a month".
Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by zakary on Thursday September 21, 2023 @05:08PM (#37604360)
Whatever the cap is, I’m sure it’s a lot higher than google will let you do before they start rate limiting you or making you do a captcha for every search. Pretty much all search services have some cap, after which they will put up roadblocks to slow you down
Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by gretch on Thursday September 21, 2023 @05:21PM (#37604542)
> I’m sure it’s a lot higher than google will let you do before they start rate limiting you

Do you have any basis for this assumption?

Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by gkbrk on Thursday September 21, 2023 @05:38PM (#37604761)
Google throws me around 4-5 CAPTCHAs a month with regular usage. So far, Kagi hasn't made me do any "find the firehoses".
Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by Lammy on Thursday September 21, 2023 @05:49PM (#37604893)
I've been getting captchaed by Google just for using `intitle:` or `inurl:` modifiers.
Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by Scubabear68 on Thursday September 21, 2023 @08:01PM (#37606120)
It drives me bonkers when I am searching a very deep topic (like looking for specific legal decisions), and Google throws up a Captcha at me.

I am fast and good at searching, but I ain’t that good. I’m going to give Kagi a try for this reason, plus ability to prefer or ban specific sites.

Re:Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month by zamadatix on Friday September 22, 2023 @01:46PM (#37615186)
When trying out Kagi (prior to unlimited searches) my monthly Google searches were significantly higher than the cap. While some definitely do get CAPTCHAs, I wasn't. Adjusting this to the new unlimited price and it would still seem to be negative profit for them, hence the question.