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Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by digging on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @05:22PM (#37590368)
My dream: we give up on bullshit jobs. We implement UBI. We localize the majority of our agriculture. Humans, largely freed from fake labor, work communally on their local farms, splitting up the labor so nobody has to wreck their health and finances gambling on a lettuce crop.
Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by dukeyukey on Thursday September 21, 2023 @07:48AM (#37596244)
> We localize the majority of our agriculture

That means continental-scale famine. I'm not kidding - loads of countries only have the populations they have today because they can import cheap food from Europe and the Americas. Without that trade, billions starve.

Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by digging on Thursday September 21, 2023 @10:33AM (#37598206)
I'm not talking about cutting off trade overnight, though. I'm talking about building up community resources to reduce the need. But this is all very abstract anyway.
Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by fakedang on Thursday September 21, 2023 @08:35AM (#37596688)
The pandemic stimulation was an example of UBI and what it leads to - more inflation.

America needs more stimulation that's less direct cash and more services based. A guarantee for a one-time provision of free housing for non-asset holders. Proper zoning and less NIMBYism to make it more affordable (even massed mixed-purpose zones). Medicare and Medicaid for all, and making it easy for people to avail of these. More educational funding to state and community colleges, after diverting funding from private universities. Food stamps with rationing for the neediest. A solid infrastructure programme like the WPA, to stimulate rural and blue-collar growth.

Imo, you can only be truly free if the major needs in the hierarchy - food, shelter, education, health and leisure - are taken care of. Then you can help people get rid of bullshit jobs and working for a pittance.

Of course, they won't be implemented. Repubs would be crying out loud at "handouts" and "freeloaders", without saying that you can only stop further freeloading by pulling out the poor from their chasm.

Re:‘Less than half’ fresh produce sold globally makes any pr... by digging on Thursday September 21, 2023 @01:44PM (#37601210)
Actually I quite agree with this. I used UBI as a better-known shorthand for "providing for human needs."