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Re:Toyota Unveils Breakthrough in Teaching Robots New Behaviors by nico on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @04:31PM (#37589752)
I wonder if giving cars a sense of touch is what will ultimately be the key to enable full autonomous driving

Are there any cars out there that have something like a sense of touch and with it can sense the road or things that they crash into?

Re:Toyota Unveils Breakthrough in Teaching Robots New Behaviors by jpadkins on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @05:22PM (#37590363)
I think cars already have a sense of touch with the road with traction control sensors.

For everything else isn't touch too late, especially at high speeds? the point is to avoid the crash.

Re:Toyota Unveils Breakthrough in Teaching Robots New Behaviors by serf on Thursday September 21, 2023 @12:51AM (#37593357)
there is a lot of work to be done with gauging tire traction.

it's (generally) done via comparison of RPM, but one can imagine some future tire that could realistically give feedback about how the weight is actually sitting on the tire, which portions are heating disproportionately, and which parts are experiencing friction anomalies versus the rest of the tire.

that's the direction it would have to kind of go towards to reach the dimensionality and resolution of human proprioception.

that kind of stuff is approached on F1 test rigs and cars. multiple IR laser therms and lidar to compare temperature across the tire at speed as well as judging deformation.

Re:Toyota Unveils Breakthrough in Teaching Robots New Behaviors by Kerb_ on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @07:22PM (#37591366)
Most cars are able feel when they crash into things. Usually that means it's too late to react to it.

https://wellsve.com/products/electrical-lighting-body-system....

Re:Toyota Unveils Breakthrough in Teaching Robots New Behaviors by nico on Thursday September 21, 2023 @02:23PM (#37601775)
In production yes, but it’s like kids, you don’t want them to fall and hurt themselves, however that’s how they learn

Likewise, maybe self-driving cars need to get a few bumps and scratches to learn not to crash

Re:Toyota Unveils Breakthrough in Teaching Robots New Behaviors by numpad0 on Thursday September 21, 2023 @08:08AM (#37596437)
Cars with electric power steering has steering force sensors, as well as accelerometers, though cars generally don't have central computers - they're networked collection of feature computers in a topology somewhat like a sugar molecule.