Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by borbulon on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @11:41AM
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I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I have cancer, and I've definitely gotten a few "we've never seen x happen with y drug," but they've always been ready to accept that I'm just in the 0.00001 percentile or whatever that this happens to. They've never tried to treat me for something else, they believed that what was happening, was happening.
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by lainga on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @11:30AM
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What is to be done about the strong individualistic element - some might say liability - among doctors in Western medical systems?
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by fidotron on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @11:52AM
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AI, unironically.
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by giantg2 on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @11:52AM
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Exactly - deviate from the established protocol and you open up legal risks, possibly get fired from your practice (since most are big companies now and not individuals or partners), etc.
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by gwbas1c on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @12:32PM
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The irony was that the infectious disease expert checking my mom was very Chinese, both in appearance and accent.
If she (infectious disease expert) had the "western" "strong individualistic element," she might have pulled the oncologist aside and said, "look..." (If she hadn't already done that, but was merely seeing my mom so her oncologist could save face.)
The real issue is mindset and maturity. These issues happen in all cultures.
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by lainga on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @12:34PM
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Alright, point taken...
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by nwienert on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @01:06PM
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The question is what to be done about HN commenters bringing America up as the problem on [insert topic here] reflexively.
If I have to read another European go off on healthcare completely uninformed… (not yours btw) I’ve read at least 4 comments this month that take a mostly universal issue and try and shoehorn some anti American sentiment, almost always completely unnecessarily.
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by appplication on Wednesday September 20, 2023 @08:07PM
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It makes a lot more sense when you consider the even specialized cancer docs maybe see a couple thousand cases max over their entire career. If someone takes an experimental cancer drug and dies of a heart attack, their doc may never even hear about it. Or if they do, just assume it was the cancer, or unrelated. Medicine is difficult.
Re:Cancer expert gets experimental treatment for incurable t...
by ignorethefacts on Thursday September 21, 2023 @06:13AM
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Most of western medicine is a church of denial, dishonesty and extortion. The indoctrination program is very successful, every person is exposed to it repeatedly throughout their upbringing. By the time the brightest minds enter the clergy, they have been conditioned into good little drones and don't have the capacity to understand any thought not within their scriptures.
My mother had uterine cancer. As it progressed, she entered a study and took experimental drugs.
The cancer spread to her spine, which is highly unusual for uterine cancer. Because it's unusual, her oncologist went into denial and didn't treat her appropriately.
I remember listening to the oncologist say "it can't be spinal cancer, that doesn't happen" while I could see that the infectious disease expert was humoring the oncologist and checking my mom for spinal meningitis.