Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by bryanlarsen on Monday September 18, 2023 @12:19PM
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A future projection is not a fact, so it's not a lie when it's wrong.
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Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by JohnFen on Monday September 18, 2023 @12:32PM
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If I make a prediction without actually believing that my prediction is likely to happen, then I've lied.
Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by autonomousErwin on Monday September 18, 2023 @12:38PM
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How do you know if the person didn't believe the prediction is likely to happen? (benefit of the doubt?)
Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by JohnFen on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:03PM
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Depends on the situation, I think. Did the person otherwise behave assuming their prediction is true? Have they told anyone else that they don't really believe it? Etc.
I wasn't claiming that that Musk (or anyone in particular) was lying in my my comment. I was just pointing out that you can, in fact, lie through making speculative statements.
Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by autonomousErwin on Monday September 18, 2023 @02:01PM
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Ah fair enough, in the context of the thread I made that incorrect assumption that was what you were inferring.
Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by FireBeyond on Monday September 18, 2023 @02:15PM
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"This year you will be able to drive coast to coast with no interventions".
"Tesla indicated that Elon is extrapolating on the rates of improvement when speaking about L5 capabilities. Tesla will not say if the rate of improvement would make it to L5 by end of calendar year."
Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by FrankoDelMar on Monday September 18, 2023 @12:24PM
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I will develop self driving basketball shoes by tomorrow, I pinky promise.
Re:Y Combinator Podcast #4: Sam Altman Interviews Elon Musk
by grecy on Monday September 18, 2023 @01:18PM
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If you had a ton of incredibly smart people working on the project, a ton of secured funding and a track record of actually delivering things that are incredibly complicated and ground breaking, then some people would choose to believe you, and they might even invest in you.
Of course, there will always be people that don't, and that's perfectly fine too.