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Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by david-gpu on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:32AM (#37535099)
We have gotten to the point where they admit the presence of UAPs, now they need to release data of those sightings so that third parties can analyze it and the academic peer review process can begin.

Anything else is speculation, one way or another, and that won't lead to a broad consensus.

Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by Avshalom on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:49AM (#37535261)
Nothing except "yep it's definitely aliens" will lead to "broad consensus" because no analysis will be considered evidence against aliens by the people who already believe it's aliens.
Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by hutzlibu on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:56AM (#37535318)
I think flat earthers and alike are always excempt, when someone speaks of a broad consensus.
Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by david-gpu on Saturday September 16, 2023 @10:58AM (#37535341)
There is nothing to lose by declassifying and releasing the "high definition videos" that NASA's head and AARO's director talk about. Are you opposed to that? If you are, can you elaborate?
Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by Avshalom on Saturday September 16, 2023 @11:16AM (#37535525)
I'm not opposed, broadly speaking I don't really support the idea of classified or secret information at all (in like a government context, I'm not going to tell you my birthday and social#)

It just won't do anything. And it's really obvious that it won't do anything.

Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by crustaceansoup on Saturday September 16, 2023 @12:04PM (#37535978)
They're usually classified because they reveal information on sensor capabilities, NASA's director talked about that at the press conference.
Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by david-gpu on Saturday September 16, 2023 @12:44PM (#37536370)
And yet they are able to declassify some of them. Why only declassify three blurry dots in 2017 and one blurry sphere in 2022 when according to AARO they have about a thousand reports, including fifty sightings showing "anomalous" characteristics? The rather mundane-looking blurry stuff released in 2017 was captured using military equipment and it didn't stop them.
Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by crustaceansoup on Saturday September 16, 2023 @01:37PM (#37536842)
Didn't GOFAST/GIMBAL and the Nimitz tic-tac video leak? That could have given them convenient choices to look like they were cooperating.

Could they be covering something up? I can't say it's impossible.

I'm just saying that between the tendency towards overclassification, the UFO stigma, and seemingly legimitate counterintel concerns, it doesn't seem like this refusal is evidence of a cover-up in and of itself.

Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by david-gpu on Sunday September 17, 2023 @07:06AM (#37543730)
I agree 100%
Re:NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens by mcpackieh on Saturday September 16, 2023 @12:08PM (#37536017)
> We have gotten to the point where they admit to the presence of UAPs

They have always "admitted to the existence of" things they can't identify in some videos, blurry photographs, radar tracks, etc. UAP doesn't mean aliens, it just means "I can't tell what this is." Most of these UAPs turn out to be shit like commercial airliners far away on the horizon, and they remain "unidentified" because nobody cares enough to actually figure out what they are.

And you take this to be suggestive of aliens? Please!