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Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by jacurtis on Thursday September 14, 2023 @11:36AM (#37510388)
A lot of this is the fault of the politicians and public education.

Both are largely influenced by one overwhelming organization with nearly infinite money. If you live in Utah you know who i'm talking about.

They don't care about the environment and they aren't overly concerned with public health. Yet most politicians in Utah will only get and stay in power with their blessing and approval. Thats why Utah has had the same senator for 42 years.

We need the utah public to wake up and vote with some intelligence to get people in power who want to and can actually make change and care about these things.

I lived in Utah for almost 2 decades (as an adult). I moved out 5 years ago and it was the absolute best decision I ever made.

Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by paulddraper on Thursday September 14, 2023 @11:39AM (#37510446)
Literally nothing you describe is unique to Utah or the LDS Church.

Chuck Grassley has been a senator longer than that and he still isn't done

Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by dfxm12 on Thursday September 14, 2023 @11:45AM (#37510518)
Literally nothing you describe is unique to Utah or the LDS Church.

I agree that it isn't unique, but why does it matter? The point isn't that it is a unique situation, the point is that Utahns are being underserved by their officials.

Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by paulddraper on Thursday September 14, 2023 @01:16PM (#37511825)
It matters in understanding root causes
Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by quickthrowman on Thursday September 14, 2023 @11:40AM (#37510453)
No need to be subtle, you’re talking about the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, aka the Mormon Church.

Utah is a de facto theocracy.

Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by bjt on Thursday September 14, 2023 @11:45AM (#37510519)
Though I'm no fan of the LDS church's dominance in Utah politics, your assessment of their stance on the environment seems off base.

Example: This recent donation of agricultural water rights that they owned, to divert the water into lake preservation instead.

https://naturalresources.utah.gov/dnr-newsfeed/church-donate...

Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by 0xfae on Thursday September 14, 2023 @12:08PM (#37510799)
You are delusional.

You're like the person who despite everyone saying someone is a serial abuser is like "But they were nice to me! They can't be that bad of a guy"

Just because they made a donation doesn't mean they aren't doing harm.

Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by NegativeK on Thursday September 14, 2023 @12:21PM (#37510978)
You could've made the same point without insulting the commenter above you.
Re:Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake by irrational on Thursday September 14, 2023 @12:51PM (#37511427)
> We need the utah public to wake up and vote with some intelligence to get people in power who want to and can actually make change and care about these things.

I live in Oregon where the majority of people live in a tiny corner of the state (the Portland Metro area) which is Democrat heavy. The rest of the state is mainly populated with rural Republican-leaning conservatives. The rural portion of the state is essentially constantly mimicking you about how the entire state government is controlled by Democrats and how “We need the Oregon public to wake up and vote with some intelligence to get people in power who want to and can actually make change and care about these things.” It has gotten to the point where they want the majority of the counties in the state to secede and join themselves to Idaho. Of course, there is no more chance of that happening than you trying to convince the majority conservative Utah population to not vote for conservative candidates. And, the Oregon liberal majority will keep voting for liberal candidates.