Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by Palmik on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:10AM
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I am totally with you when it comes to reasoning, or when it comes to generally / universally capable models. But many problems don't require reasoning, and are very concrete / specific.
Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by SOLAR_FIELDS on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:32AM
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I use my models primarily for code generation and evaluation. Does the latter part fall into “reasoning” territory?
Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by Palmik on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @10:23AM
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Advanced code generation, the kind you would need for something like AutoGPT or other agent-like system, is definitely reasoning and GPT-4 or Claude 2 will dominate. But most of the code generation from GitHub Copilot or other systems (like Replit) is much simpler pattern matching (and indeed, Replit afaik uses very small models).
What do you mean by evaluation?
Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by SOLAR_FIELDS on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @08:16PM
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My personal use case is most often supplying files and generating unit tests, as well as supplying a section of code with a prompt about that section to evaluate the approach contextually with some other unseen code. Which perhaps is another form of reasoning.
Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by benob on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @10:09AM
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I am trying to find support for your last argument.
https://paperswithcode.com/sota/common-sense-reasoning-on-ar...
GPT-3 53.2
GPT-3.5 85.2
LLaMa-65B 56.0
Any idea of the performance of an instruction-fine-tuned version of LLaMa models? I can't seem to find non-aggregated performance figures on ARC.
Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by behnamoh on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:12AM
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Wow, the top 14 are all proprietary models (except 2 models which are not commonly used in OS community anyway).
And surprisingly, Llama 33B performs _better_ than Llama 65B!
Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by NhanH on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:18AM
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That table is comparing few shot prompting GPT 4 to zero shot llama.
Re:70B Llama 2 at 35tokens/second on 4090
by BoorishBears on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:11PM
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I'm not sure if these ARC scores here are fully comparable to those in scaling, but if they are: https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderb...
TigerResearch/tigerbot-70b-chat: ARC (76.79)
Still below 3.5 and like most top entries no clear training objectives, which usually means they were fine-tuned on the benchmark itself.
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ARC is easily the most important benchmark right now for widespread adoption of LLMs by laypeople: it's literal grade school multiple choice, created to the bar of an 8th grader.
When you sit people down in front of an LLM and have them interact with it: ARC has by far the closest correlation of how "generally smart" the model will feel.
Saying it can outperform GPT-3.5-turbo on "many tasks" would be venturing into unreasonable territory.
Saying it can outperform GPT-3.5-turbo or even GPT-4 on many tasks is just setting people up for disappointment: There's a reason ARC (common sense reasoning) never gets mentioned when touting OS LLMs vs commercial, and the gap in ARC performance is amplified terribly when you try to apply chain-of-thought