Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by 29athrowaway on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @06:15AM
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Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by Maschinesky on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @06:18AM
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"Godwin himself has also criticized the overapplication of the law, claiming that it does not articulate a fallacy, but rather is intended to reduce the frequency of inappropriate and hyperbolic comparisons. "
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by bigDinosaur on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @06:55AM
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In this case it is hyperbolic. Amazon is many bad things, but Nazis they are not (I shouldn't have to say that).
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by hnlmorg on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:28AM
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A comparison doesn’t mean a literal equivalence. It means a similarity. In this case there is a similarity with regards to the propaganda. They’re not equivalent but there are definitely not unlike each other either.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by couchand on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:18AM
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I don't think the original comparison was inapt -- the video is hard evidence of appalling and disgusting propaganda. It will not be viewed kindly by history.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by Vinnl on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:29AM
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But the point of the comparison is not to make Amazon/Bezos out to be Nazis; it's to point out that this practice might in the future be looked upon as an artefact of the times that hopefully no longer happen in the museum visitor's time.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by Maschinesky on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:46AM
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Are you aware of the following?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei?wprov=sfla1
In my opinion this it's very well.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by sinman on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @09:52AM
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I think the gp is kind to even call this "hyperbolic". There is no comparison between Amazon and a concentration camp, just because people are worked hard at amazon.
The reason Auschwitz was bad was not because people worked hard there. It was because people were enslaved and murdered there.
It would be like comparing a camp site to a concentration camp, because both are "camps". The comparison yields no useful insights.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by Maschinesky on Thursday September 14, 2023 @02:16AM
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It's about the sentiment of work and working people to death for nothing.
Unions make workconditions better
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by npteljes on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @06:31AM
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It's not really a long discussion, we're jumping straight to the Nazi comparison.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by t0bia_s on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:50AM
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Years 2020 and 2021 are rich for topic about propaganda. I never understood why there was something like holocaust in history. After covid, I understand how fear, media and oppression shape behavior.
What bothers me more is question, if we can ever learn from history.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by nonethewiser on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @08:37AM
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I think human nature has a floor and ceiling. Capacity for good and bad that everyone shares. And I think people underestimate (or overestimate?) the floor of human nature. They think its higher than it is. And that everyone shares it.
Thats not to say human nature is bad. Its a spectrum.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by flosstop on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @08:22AM
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The one thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by the-dude on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @08:04AM
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It might have been a good comment if you left the hyperbole out.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by dsr_ on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @08:16AM
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It was a good comment with the sarcasm included.
Re:Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
by blipvert on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @08:58AM
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The Museum of Neoliberalism, perhaps?
https://www.spellingmistakescostlives.com/museumofneoliberal...
The guitar intro is folksy, the guy is warm and lovely, and _excited_ to have us at this training.... it's about your "success".
Success of course, is not getting fired for being a collaborator with counter-revolutionary "associates" who reject Generalissimo Uberführer Bezos inspired vision and "history making" five year masterplan for "direct working relationships".
I can honestly imagine this in a museum of the 21st Century one day, like how you can go to the British Museum and watch 1938 films of "doctors" measuring Jew's heads for criminal degeneracy.