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Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by Kim_Bruning on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @05:53AM (#37494560)
Don't know where you live, but I'm seeing more and more public parking spaces and apartment parking lots with charging poles both in Netherlands and Germany.
Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by pjmlp on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @06:01AM (#37494632)
In German cities during the night, the streets look hardly different from southern countries, where any place that a car is able to fit goes.

Is the only time of the day where police and civil police (ordungsamt) seem to close their eyes to what is clearly a violation of proper parking.

A couple of chargers here and there, hardly help.

Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by b3orn on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @11:01AM (#37497675)
True, but I think the solution to that problem is simply less cars. On-street parking it's a huge subsidy for car owners, if people had to prove that they own a parking space fewer people would have cars.
Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by pjmlp on Thursday September 14, 2023 @02:45AM (#37505751)
Most people buy cars because even in European cities public transport sucks, unless one lives right into the city center.

A few km into the suburbs and hello to 1 - 2 hours transit time to come into the city center, with multiple connections, delays, dropped connections, stuffed with as much humans as possible, freezing in Winter, cooking in Summer,....

Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by adrianN on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @01:05PM (#37498981)
A couple of chargers here and there is not the desired end state.
Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by LargoLasskhyfv on Saturday September 16, 2023 @03:09AM (#37532654)
It's more varied than a couple here and there. It really depends on where you are living, and even which part of town in which town. In my german location I see 6 type two chargers from my balconies, most of time only two of them used. I think I'd have to rewind my cam feeds for very long to see all of them used. Don't know exactly, never watched for that, so far :-) There are at least 2 dozen other chargers in a walking distance of 2 to 3 minutes. And much more on many parking spaces of businesses a litlle farther away. In my stroboscopic flashes of memories from the times I visit, they've grown more and more over the last years. Still don't care, because in HH I usually walk, ride my bicycle, or take the fucking BUS &BAHN. In my other location I pose as the man in the high castle, and guzzle gas, as it should be. EV is inconvenient to me, you see?
Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by Bissness on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @06:44AM (#37494950)
Public chargers usually have very low power (e.g. 11kW), are as of now not common enough and typically limit the parking time to a few hours (that are not even sufficient to fully charge), requiring one to go back again and find another parking space after that (which, later in the evening/night, is even harder).
Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by jmaker on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:11AM (#37495158)
In addition, in many countries and charger networks, there’s often a surcharge past 5th hour or so plugging in, charged by the minute, resulting in a prohibitive cost overnight. So 11kW peak power times 5 hours times efficiency of .8-.9 gives you like a half of a recent Tesla Model 3 or Y battery capacity.
Re:Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Char... by adrianN on Wednesday September 13, 2023 @07:29AM (#37495307)
A few hours at 10kW recharge several days typical use.