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Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by constantly on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:11PM (#37487468)
It’s not that you’re completely and totally wrong that makes me mad, it’s that you state everything with such an authoritative tone that people won’t doubt it and will get into a bad situation based on what you’re saying.
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by londons_explore on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:33PM (#37487811)
> Once you notify your bank or credit union about an unauthorized transaction (that is, a charge or withdrawal you didn’t make or allow), it generally has ten business days to investigate the issue. The bank or credit union must correct an error within one business day after determining that an error has occurred.

[1] https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/how-do-i-get-my-mon....

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @08:09PM (#37490443)
> completely and totally wrong

Citation needed.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by taway32r41 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:55PM (#37487147)
The U.S. Senate begs to differ.

Consumers defrauded on Zelle are left high and dry by the banks that created it [pdf] (senate.gov)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37438934

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by SamReidHughes on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:08PM (#37487409)
Transactions where you got scammed aren't the same thing as unauthorized transactions.
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by taway32r41 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:25PM (#37487694)
"Banks are not repaying customers who contest “unauthorized” Zelle payments – potentially violating federal law and CFPB rules."

I suppose you and Senator Warren have different definitions for unauthorized.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by SamReidHughes on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:53PM (#37489041)
So, actually, 47% of them by dollar amount, according to the report you quoted. Selectively quoted. Why do you behave this way?

Here's a question for you to think about: Why do they reverse some claims but not others?

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by taway32r41 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @10:12PM (#37491359)
> Why do they reverse some claims but not others?

I guess that is the question. I'll be interested in the bank's reply.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @08:07PM (#37490429)
Why is the word "unauthorized" in scare quotes?

And a lot of the complaint is about "cases where customers reported being fraudulently induced into making payments", which would agree with the ancestor comment.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by taway32r41 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @10:08PM (#37491343)
Honestly I don't know. I copied and pasted the text and punctuation from the original document and it put them there. I also didn't do the research. The office of Senator Warren did. You can quibble with them. :)
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @10:29PM (#37491484)
> You can quibble with them. :)

The scare quotes imply that they are the ones saying the case isn't very strong, so I'm not quibbling with them, I'm trying to interpret them.

Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by frumper on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:49PM (#37487024)
I've had multiple family members wait months to sort things out like that. Visa fraud experience is usually immediate, checking/savings accounts not so much.
Re:iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus by mikeweiss on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @03:56PM (#37487165)
Yeah.. good luck with that !