the jvm is a powerful platform. but java itself sucks. yeah massive ecosystem. library for everything.

but if thre's one thing that embodies complexity for the sake of complexity its java.

java is also pragmatic. you're less likely to lose hair using java than python.

but java sucks -- you've a lot of "come-from" statements that you can't easily grasp the code. maybe it's me just being a dumb mofo