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Re:Chronic fatigue syndrome may have a post-viral infection ... by DoreenMichele on Monday September 11, 2023 @02:12AM (#37463511)
Depression may not be psychosomatic. It may be somatopsychic.

Some physical ailments have psychological and emotional side effects. Depression may be rooted in physical ailments negatively impacting mood and brain function.

Re:Chronic fatigue syndrome may have a post-viral infection ... by atleastoptimal on Monday September 11, 2023 @02:17AM (#37463547)
It could easily be both, though there certainly is research indicating depression causes physical pain. However since many of these studies only found correlations it's only clear that they come together and not whether one causes the other. One way of isolating that issue would be to determine the rates of depression in people with unambiguously diagnosable chronic pain disorders due to a root physical cause vs both the population and the population of those who report chronic pain.
Re:Chronic fatigue syndrome may have a post-viral infection ... by DoreenMichele on Monday September 11, 2023 @02:22AM (#37463582)
Chronic pain definitely negatively impacts mood.

Except for phantom pain, I think it's generally best to assume pain has a physical cause and pain negatively impacts mood, not the other way around.

And I've had phantom pain. I think even there, it's likely a physical cause, but mirror therapy is still known to help for some cases.

Re:Chronic fatigue syndrome may have a post-viral infection ... by whimsicalism on Monday September 11, 2023 @12:06PM (#37469320)
I don't even understand the distinction you are trying to make. Your mind is part of your physical body. If you are depressed then it is constitutively a physical ailment.

Are people just this bought into mind-body dualism like two centuries later?

Re:Chronic fatigue syndrome may have a post-viral infection ... by francisofascii on Monday September 11, 2023 @01:20PM (#37470437)
Depression is physical ailment but it can have either an external cause (a death, loss of job) and an internal/physical ailment (a virus or other pathogen) which causes depression.
Re:Chronic fatigue syndrome may have a post-viral infection ... by EatingWithForks on Monday September 11, 2023 @02:08PM (#37471158)
It's the difference between a woman with a worm in her head experiencing depression and brain fog (because, y'know, a parasitic worm was in her head) and claiming her depression had caused a parastic worm to appear in her head