Re:Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
by bergon on Monday September 11, 2023 @01:18AM
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It's frustrating that you can't change DE in Windows though, and that it changes from version to version.
Re:Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
by anticensor on Monday September 11, 2023 @03:19AM
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You actually can, but there is no viable alternative DE. If only KDE had a Win32-free build for Windows.
Re:Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
by bergon on Monday September 11, 2023 @04:44AM
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I didn't know that, thanks for mentioning. It's apparently called shells in Windows lingo: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alternative_shells_f...
Re:Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
by simion314 on Monday September 11, 2023 @01:58AM
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>Getting global menus set up in your DE of choice for example takes a surprising amount of twiddling and even at its best doesn't work with a lot of software.
And is one click and works with all apps in Windows ?
Re:Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
by jwells89 on Monday September 11, 2023 @09:40AM
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No, but there’s no chance of Windows becoming my primary platform — I use it almost exclusively for games (some of which don’t play nice with Proton) — and so I don’t need as much from it.
Re:Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
by simion314 on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @05:42AM
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But you realize that getting all possible apps to look the same and have same behavior is very hard, you have GTK2, GTK3, GTK4 with their limited customization, then you have Qt apps, KDE apps, Java with their different GUI frameworks, node apps, Wine apps, other smaller toolkits used in Python etc.
But as you admit in Linux you have infinite more power to attempt setting up a global menu, but this feature is not something a mainstream distro offers by default so IMO is not a fair complaint.
There's also been a fair amount of googling for how to set up X in Linux to do Y only to find a trail of half-functional or abandoned packages. Getting global menus set up in your DE of choice for example takes a surprising amount of twiddling and even at its best doesn't work with a lot of software. Getting everything functioning as expected with a minimal WM setup is also a surprising amount of work (e.g. laptop volume keys not working if some daemon isn't running). Admittedly it's not as bad if all your want is a Win9x-type or iPad-type desktop.