NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in the Wild

Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by l33t7332273 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @04:56PM (#37425458)

>no wonder China is banning government officials from using their devices.

Do you actually think security is the reason they are being banned? I think the reasons are far more political than technical.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by pyinstallwoes on Thursday September 07, 2023 @05:19PM (#37425760)

Technology is political.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by CatWChainsaw on Thursday September 07, 2023 @05:30PM (#37425885)

Hard truth for people to hear, here. So many insist that all technology is neutral.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by pmontra on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:00PM (#37426189)

To foster your point, I quote a comment from another post on HN now

> And the whole reason for the hydrogen burning [by SLS' engines] was to keep the space shuttle contractors jobs. Once again it's not a technical reason but a pork barrel one.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by bawolff on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:52PM (#37427339)

All things are political and technology is a thing.

That doesn't mean you can't analyze if a specific technical decision was made primarily on technical grounds/merit or if it is mostly a political one without a technical basis.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:10PM (#37426302)

Same reason USA have forced Huawei to be banned around the place.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by m3kw9 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:17PM (#37426378)

Sometimes even if they wanted to ban purely for security reasons, it would be blocked because it could trigger political repercussions, or seen as a offensive move by the opposition country

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by postalrat on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:01PM (#37426856)

I just assume the weaknesses were made to be exploited by the US and other governments.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by cheese_van on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:29PM (#37427118)

>I think the reasons are far more political than technical.

You may be right but sometimes the local optics track better when a political reason is given and the local authorities might also expect better compliance with political reasoning. Similarly, "We are getting pwned," never tracks well. There are solid reasons, long ago, why China stopped using Nortel.

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by walterbell on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:38PM (#37427201)

> There are solid reasons, long ago, why China stopped using Nortel.

Such as?

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Re:NSO Group iPhone Zero-Click, Zero-Day Exploit Captured in... by pseudo0 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:47PM (#37427301)

The two issues are intertwined, and from their perspective the real risk is likely relying on a US company during a time when US/China relations are quite tense. But Apple repeatedly having 0-click 0-day iMessage exploits being used in the wild certainly doesn't help. At a minimum it's a very good justification for them to move to a domestic solution like Huawei and HarmonyOS.

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