Kagi Small Web - Hackdot

Re:Kagi Small Web by vinceguidry on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:21PM (#37421339)

Can't reinvent everything all at once lol.

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Re:Kagi Small Web by toastal on Thursday September 07, 2023 @01:19PM (#37422299)

There’s not much to reinvent. They could have setup & hosted an XMPP server with MUCs & microblogged posts on whatever ActivityPub option they chose (or similar softwares).

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Re:Kagi Small Web by vinceguidry on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:43AM (#37435121)

The point isn't to go back to the 90s, it's to bring the 90s into today.

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Re:Kagi Small Web by toastal on Friday September 08, 2023 @12:37PM (#37435903)

Modern XEPs have brought XMPP to today. ActivityPub is fairly new too.

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Re:Kagi Small Web by caskstrength on Monday September 11, 2023 @03:00AM (#37463855)

How is creating a Mastodon account equates to "going back to the 90s"?

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Re:Kagi Small Web by dagw on Monday September 11, 2023 @03:05AM (#37463897)

Instead of there being one central authority where you create your "Mastodon account" that is responsible for authentication and deciding who gets to view and post what, there are thousands of independent 'authorities' each deciding who they want to let on and how they want to do things and what subset of Mastodon they want their users to see. Much like Usenet and IRC

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Re:Kagi Small Web by freediver on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:53PM (#37421871)

Rooting for small web does not mean one needs to be against other technology.

For example Kagi uses Google and even hosts on GCP - I think Google's technology and people are great, it is just the business model that is rotten and contibutes to the deterioration of the web.

And at least Discord and Twitter are trying to have a business model that does not put more ads down your throat (although admittedly I did cancel my Twitter subscription as unexplainably they still showed ads even when subscribing - you can't sit on two chairs).

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Re:Kagi Small Web by pavlov on Thursday September 07, 2023 @03:22PM (#37424252)

> “trying to have a business model that does not put more ads down your throat”

Twitter isn’t really trying to do that. It’s just something the owner likes to claim, but what he’s actually done is the opposite:

- Hired a CEO from the ad world

- Increased personal data collection (with updated Terms of Service to reflect that)

- Limited tweet access without login (those views would be harder to target with ads)

As a Tesla customer I’m fed up with this person’s endless lies. Seems like you got a taste of it with your Twitter subscription too.

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Re:Kagi Small Web by ploum on Friday September 08, 2023 @05:23AM (#37431427)

Are you on Mastodon or on the fediverse btw? Any plan for Kagi to have an account there? (not really required, I don’t think that companies should necessarly be on social networks, that’s mostly a waste of time)

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Re:Kagi Small Web by ploum on Friday September 08, 2023 @06:27AM (#37431833)

Discussion started here : https://mamot.fr/@ploum/111028702144600436

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Re:Kagi Small Web by toastal on Thursday September 07, 2023 @01:16PM (#37422258)

They also mentioned their Microsoft GitHub forge to file issues. They really want you to create proprietary accounts to interact with them. You’d think a small web initiative would be led with small, decentralized/federated, libre software choices.

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Re:Kagi Small Web by judas44 on Friday September 08, 2023 @07:34AM (#37432214)

They use a flarum instance for feedback: https://kagifeedback.org/

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