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Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by avgcorrection on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:37AM (#37420536)
Completely and utterly false. Even a slave owns his own mind and how it reacts to things. (Insert Stoic spiel here.) And it is best to cultivate a mind which is in accordance with the Serenity Prayer.

Another thing entirely is what you formally own. I mean as in by-law, not some aspirational or motivational bullshit. And someone is trying to manipulate you if they try to foist the responsibilities of ownership onto you (even if it is just in your own mind—staying late, fretting about it in the shower, etc.) by encouraging “taking ownership” without actually physically letting you own it.

> Owning what you’re working on (and refusing to work for someone who won’t let you) is usually a key part of mental health and actual real world success for everyone.

Yes sir/madame.

Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by tome on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:43AM (#37420660)
> Completely and utterly false

As far as I can tell you lazide are in agreement. If your comment didn't start with "Completely and utterly false" I'd think you were writing a supporting/reinforcing follow-up!

Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by avgcorrection on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:09PM (#37426284)
Hrmph. This is what often happens on the internet:

- Someone makes a cynical comment on some specific topic

- Someone else makes a completely inappropriate extrapolation and concludes—based on nothing—that the first poster is making an argument for being defeatist and negative for its own sake

- The first poster has to then correct this inappropriate extrapolation—which was based on nothing—by stating that, yes, it is good to (say) have a positive attitude in your life

- Onlookers act puzzled as the first poster is contradicting himself (apparently) by hostilely agreeing with the second poster that having a good mind-attitude in life is good!

So yes I suppose I could be agreeing with the second poster...

Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by lazide on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:47AM (#37420722)
I can’t tell if you’re agreeing with me, disagreeing with me, or both. Or neither.

Mind clarifying?

Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by avgcorrection on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:16PM (#37426363)
I was making a cynical comment on management. You bust in out of nowhere and claim that I am making a case for being a “victim” in general. I correct your inappropriate extrapolation by stating that I was narrowly talking about what this one-weird-trick by managers is trying to achieve, which has exactly nothing to do with how one decides to govern ones attitude towards life. You then act confused when it turns out that I am not arguing for being a “victim”, a conclusion that you just pulled out of your ass.

And that's about four more sentences of extra clarification that none of your comments have even deserved.

Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by lazide on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:29PM (#37428511)
It sounds like you desperately need a vacation. I wish you luck!
Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by tome on Friday September 08, 2023 @02:57AM (#37430383)
Seems rather presumptuous.
Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by avgcorrection on Friday September 08, 2023 @03:14AM (#37430509)
It's just some back-handed well-wishing. ;)
Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by lazide on Friday September 08, 2023 @12:36PM (#37435885)
Or experience - “And that's about four more sentences of extra clarification that none of your comments have even deserved”
Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by avgcorrection on Friday September 08, 2023 @03:12PM (#37438038)
I was wrong. It wasn't back-handed, just directly spiteful.
Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by lazide on Friday September 08, 2023 @10:13PM (#37441535)
Oh sweet summer child. If you think this is spite, you might want to stay indoors and keep not making eye contact with strangers.

This is kindness and empathy. Spite… is something you’re unlikely to ever trigger. Ciao!