Re:What OpenAI Really Wants
by GeoAtreides on Thursday September 07, 2023 @05:21AM
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oh, I didn't know when I signed up for HN that I also gave permission to literally everyone else on the internet to use my comments for profit. I thought the license only applied to HN. Silly me, guess you learn something new everyday.
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The point of this board is to educate people who work for startups, so that they can profit from it.
Re:What OpenAI Really Wants
by GeoAtreides on Thursday September 07, 2023 @05:46AM
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I'm ok with real human beings reading my wise words on HN and growing and profiting from their infinite wisdom. I am NOT ok with scrappers copying my comments and using them to train LLM or, indeed, for anything else that's not a human being reading it on HN.
Re:What OpenAI Really Wants
by NerdiDotOrg on Thursday September 07, 2023 @08:03AM
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does it actually matter? The potential of AI outweighs anyone's individual concern, privacy, copyright. In reality, AI companies will just pay the fines and take it anyways.
Re:What OpenAI Really Wants
by GeoAtreides on Thursday September 07, 2023 @08:29AM
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yes, according to GDPR, it does matter. Also I doubt that HN has a clause in their ToS saying it's ok for anyone to scrap the site and use the data for commercial use.
The argument is it is fair use, which a ToS can't deny you.
Fair use is a US-ish legal concept; some other countries have explicit allowances for ML training for research.
The argument is they don't need permission: it's fair use. Whether the courts will agree remains to be seen. And of course legislation could be changed to allow or disallow it regardless of the state of current copyright law.