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Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by thesaintlives on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:52AM (#37406915)
Really? I did not know one single person who died of covid. Not one. I did not even know anybody who was seriously ill. I think it was the dirty pieces of paper people where forced to wear over their mouths that kept us all healthy and safe!
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:55AM (#37406961)
I can't tell if you're serious or sarcastic, but a great illustration of the point. It's very possible for a disease to kill a million people in the US and for some folks to not have it kill any of their family and friends personally.

Someone who lived in NYC in March 2020 would likely have had a very different experience than someone in rural Minnesota, for example.

Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by free_glamorgan on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:48PM (#37409360)
I have a working hypothesis that a very large number of people don't personally know anyone who has died of Covid, except maybe for an elderly relative and "they were getting on a bit anyway". It's true of me and anyone else I've had this conversation with.
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by aardshark on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @05:32PM (#37411644)
Do you live in a first world Western country and is your social circle comprised of people who do the same? In my experience when you go outside of that circle you start finding people who have personally experienced loss from COVID very quickly.
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by free_glamorgan on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:31AM (#37414784)
Statistically, a social circle comprised of first world, Western, overweight and inactive and generally older folk should have the most susceptibility to death from Covid.
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by thesaintlives on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:01PM (#37420979)
I found completely the opposite. I spoke with all my Indian colleagues. Covid? What's that they said. No problem here Sir..
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by free_glamorgan on Thursday September 07, 2023 @01:18PM (#37422287)
Covid seems to be, physically and emotionally, a primarily Western disease. And as bad as the fallout has been where I live, it seems to have been particularly damaging in the US (on both of those counts).
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by wkat4242 on Friday September 08, 2023 @04:30AM (#37431044)
Seriously, the Indian variant (I forget which letter they gave it) was pretty devastating over there. I have many colleagues and they all know people who died, if not in their own family.
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by free_glamorgan on Friday September 08, 2023 @08:40AM (#37432745)
The official statistics on Covid deaths in India showed a mortality rate 1/10th that of the US. There would need to be more than an order of magnitude error in reporting for their death rate to exceed that of the US.

FWIW, calling it the "Indian variant" is apparently not ok. Do you mean Delta?

Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by ceejayoz on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:37AM (#37434989)
That may not be as far-fetched as it sounds.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-60981318

> More than 4.7 million people in India - nearly 10 times higher than official records suggest - are thought to have died because of Covid-19, according to a new World Health Organization (WHO) report.

> Three large peer-reviewed studies had found that India's deaths from the pandemic by September 2021 were "six to seven times higher than reported officially". A paper in The Lancet by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), an independent global health research centre, uses subnational all-cause mortality data from 12 Indian states. They come close to the WHO's estimation.

Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by free_glamorgan on Friday September 08, 2023 @11:45AM (#37435139)
I'm aware of that, which is why I made the point that it would only bring India's Covid death rate to around the same as the US and other Western countries. It is also of no help to the discussion around my original point, which is the idea that a very large number of people don't personally know anyone who died unexpectedly of Covid.
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by wkat4242 on Saturday September 09, 2023 @01:52AM (#37442634)
India was very badly affected in the cities, much more so than western Europe. That their overall rate is low is also because of the huge rural areas.
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by thesaintlives on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:00PM (#37420953)
You mean like the flu or something? So basically you are saying in a completely normal course of events and that is my point. Absolutely no reason for mass panic etc. etc..
Re:Pentagon and CIA Shaped 1000s of Hollywood Films into Sup... by thebruce87m on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:12PM (#37408841)
Great impersonation, bang on the money.