Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract collapses, says report

Re:Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract ... by nathan_compton on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:11PM (#37398482)

If this happens it is a failure of society. It isn't as if people just up and decide one day "I guess I just want to be poor and miserable."

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Re:Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract ... by mytailorisrich on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:24PM (#37398627)

It's both. Society plays a role but people do, too.

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Re:Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract ... by throwawaysleep on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:14PM (#37398515)

They do repeatedly, by taking no action to change it.

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Re:Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract ... by Sharlin on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @06:19PM (#37398566)

Must be nice, being that naive.

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Re:Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract ... by daze42 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @07:04PM (#37399021)

Society is just a lot of people.

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Re:Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract ... by gizajob on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @07:24PM (#37399190)

The Thatcherite maxim of "there's no such thing as society" is what the Conservative government still have in place today, and have done since the 80s.

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Re:Poor people ‘surviving not living’ as UK social contract ... by mytailorisrich on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:13AM (#37401829)

The point is that 'society' is not something distinct from us that we can blame. Society is only the average result of each and all of us individually, like the big, bad 'market' is.

What Thatcher said:

"There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first."

Which touches the crux of the matter here.

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