Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of IoT security updates

Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by otterley on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @12:01PM (#37393610)

In order to make it a consumer problem, we'd have to make it a criminal violation to participate in a botnet. We could make it a punishable infraction I suppose, much like a speeding ticket for automobiles, but somehow I just don't see this happening in a coordinated fashion across the world.

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Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by hutzlibu on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @12:14PM (#37393858)

I think it is already illegal to participate in DDOS. Even though enforcement is .. pretty much nonexistent? And how could you enforce it? It would create an outcry if done consequently. (But maybe a neccessary one)

But it also will be a consumer problem, if they cannot access important services anymore, because their IP has been blacklisted, because their toaster participated in too many DDOS or spam attacks.

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Re:Ask HN: I’m an FCC Commissioner proposing regulation of I... by otterley on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @03:47PM (#37410277)

> I think it is already illegal to participate in DDOS.

While it is unlawful to knowingly or intentionally participate in a DDoS, what I'm talking about is the potential of also "criminalizing" (in the sense of a speeding ticket, not jail time - an infraction, not a misdemeanor or felony) using a vulnerable device that is then hijacked by an attacker.

Like you, I don't think it's a realistic outcome; I'm merely brainstorming how one could make this a consumer problem through economics.

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