News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by boxed on Monday September 04, 2023 @01:19PM (#37382607)
Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshi and Nepalese.
Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by catlover76 on Monday September 04, 2023 @02:56PM (#37383686)
Not really; the argument would be that it creates a crime only Hindus can be accused of.

A Muslim or Christian or Sikh Indian, Pakistani, etc., would not be targets for caste discrimination lawsuits, under the logic.

Of course, as a legal matter, that's not true; anyone could be accused of caste discrimination if the law passes, whatever their religion, race, or national origin.

Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by catgary on Monday September 04, 2023 @03:32PM (#37384065)
I wonder if they’re going to challenge it based on freedom of religion (similar to Christianity and discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation).
Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by catlover76 on Monday September 04, 2023 @03:43PM (#37384185)
That would certainly be interesting.

Having left law to once again be a software engineer, I almost never find myself curious about the development of caselaw, but I think I'd follow that case lol

Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by eldaisfish on Monday September 04, 2023 @07:24PM (#37386162)
This is wrong and is a flawed understanding of how caste works in the indian subcontinent. Every single brown person has a caste. They may be unaware of it (in which case they are likely not lower caste) or not acknowledge it but it definitely exists. It certainly exists among muslims, sikhs and christians in the indian subcontinent. In those cases, religion is the perceived identity to the outsider but caste is right there, under the surface.

Hinduism codified and forms the basis for the caste system but every other religion evolved later or was forced upon people who already had caste.

Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by catlover76 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @11:33AM (#37393103)
I'm of South Asian Muslim heritage, and that's just not been my experience at all. Literally nobody I know, ranging from relatives to friends (thus spanning several ethnic groups and a range of wealth/social status) has a concept of this.

There are definitely things like social stratification based on wealth or ethnic group, and you can see things which, I suspect, are remnants of things adjacent to the caste system, such as Jatis, in the form of things like the Memon community.

Granted, even though I am talking about a range of ethnic groups, I'm still talking about north-west Indian ethnic groups: Gujratis, Panjabis, UP/Delhi people, and Pashtuns. Thus, maybe what you're saying holds true in other parts of the subcontinent--or perhaps just in very rural areas (?)

Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by boxed on Monday September 04, 2023 @08:14PM (#37386448)
> Not really; the argument would be that it creates a crime only Hindus can be accused of.

I replied to "that only indians can be convicted of" but as you point out AND THAT I POINTED OUT it's about Hindus, not Indians. There are big populations of Hindus in Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nepal.

Basically you just replied "not really; exactly what you wrote".

Re:An effort to ban caste discrimination in California has t... by WeylandYutani on Monday September 04, 2023 @06:19PM (#37385664)
Japan used to have a caste system.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34615972

Japan has generally moved on with heavy government crackdown.