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Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by mistrial9 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @04:01PM (#37373893)
it might be more than that.. here in the USA I typed "Serbia News" into youtube and got only Albanian and Slovak sites.. only two months ago, I did the same and I did get TV news in Serbia.. I wanted to know more about the northern border expansion of course, from both sides.. and what I got instead is predictable and disappointing in a "free" press environment

secondly, the only time I have ever gotten a suspicious pause in Google translate, was relating to this area in those languages..

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by jWhick on Sunday September 03, 2023 @05:10PM (#37374625)
nothing new, I'm quite sure if you try to get to russian propaganda you would get to similar blockers.
Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by mistrial9 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @05:27PM (#37374781)
here we go back to the 17th century ?
Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by Synaesthesia on Sunday September 03, 2023 @06:15PM (#37375115)
Internet censorship has stepped up big time, especially since 2016/2017.
Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by mschuster91 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @06:43PM (#37375328)
Anything involving Serbia is subject to serious trolling campaigns. Serbia and its borders have been the cause of multiple wars in the 90s, and they're the only real Russia-aligned nation in the Balkans so Putin is spending a shit ton of money on propaganda campaigns for his friend Aleksander Vucic.

Personal guess, I think that Russia is also strongly responsible for the current bullshit going on in Bosnia where the Serbian minority is riled up beyond belief; I would not be surprised if that is the cause for the next war, and had Ukraine not beaten up the Russians so strongly I bet that the original plan was to violently break apart Bosnia after Kyiv had fallen and the Western nations were too busy to deal with Ukraine to open up yet another front.

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by mistrial9 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @06:51PM (#37375385)
yeah but "trolling campaigns" is social media..

why is it unreasonable to read a newspaper in any language?

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by mschuster91 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @07:05PM (#37375477)
SEO spam is just as much of an avenue for propaganda farms as social media is. When people actively search for something, they'll turn to Google, so getting "your" narrative in the first two pages is very important for the propagandists - and it's made easier by the simple fact that no tech company invests money into moderation staff that actually speaks the language and knows context to determine if something is spam or not.
Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by justsomehnguy on Sunday September 03, 2023 @08:22PM (#37375968)
> to open up yet another front

You should have a good look at the map.

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by pjc50 on Monday September 04, 2023 @05:08AM (#37378606)
Didn't stop Russia backing Serbian during the previous unpleasantness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11753050

(Undoubtedly Blunt is exaggerating the story, but Russian forces were definitely present.)

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by midoridensha on Monday September 04, 2023 @03:45AM (#37378145)
>I bet that the original plan was to violently break apart Bosnia after Kyiv had fallen

How exactly would Russia get to Bosnia?

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by mschuster91 on Monday September 04, 2023 @05:21AM (#37378671)
Serbia doesn't need Russia for the military part, they have enough goons on their own.

The key thing is, if had Kyiv fallen, do you think that the Western nations would have had time and resources to care about the Dayton accords and intervene again? I seriously doubt it and I'm pretty certain the Serbians came to the same conclusion.

Thankfully though, Kyiv held up, and the Serbians were forced to cancel their plans since contrary to expectations the Western nations did manage to get a reasonably united response against the Russian aggression.

The problem remaining is that ethnical tensions still are high and there's not much effort being done to defuse them, partially because everyone's attention is on Ukraine at the moment.

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by kklisura on Monday September 04, 2023 @04:55PM (#37384969)
Local sentiment supports your view as well. Lots of my friends and family (hi from Sarajevo) hold belief that if Ukraine had fallen within couple of days there would be war here.
Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by marsa on Monday September 04, 2023 @07:13AM (#37379350)
> Personal guess, I think that Russia is also strongly responsible for the current bullshit going on in Bosnia

the 'current' bullshit has been going on for decades though; there's no need for Russian involvement to make it flare up occasionally (e.g. in the run-up to general elections usually). my impression is it's just Serbia feeling empowered and opportunistically using (the global focus on) Russian invasion of Ukraine to further their goals in Bosnia.

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by Scoundreller on Sunday September 03, 2023 @07:09PM (#37375500)
I'm still miffed that when I search for "coronavirus" into Google, I seem to get hand-picked results about covid-19, which is just one of hundreds of coronaviruses.

The wikipedia entry (which is often first for most search results about generic topics) is on page 2 and still likes to their covid-19 entry, not the one on coronavirus genus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by 542458 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @07:52PM (#37375781)
With all due respect, I think 99+% of people who Google “coronavirus” are looking for info about Covid-19, and as such the results being about C19 is pretty reasonable imo. It’s like how if you Google “watergate” you’ll near-exclusively get stuff about the watergate scandal (because that’s what most people who search “watergate” are looking for), and not about booking at the watergate hotel or other amenities of the watergate complex.
Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by Scoundreller on Sunday September 03, 2023 @11:59PM (#37377004)
The #1 result I get is the wiki link to the scandal.

The #2 result is the wiki for the complex.

Re:Google Preemptively Banned Hundreds of Millions of 'Pirat... by pjc50 on Monday September 04, 2023 @05:13AM (#37378625)
Hmm. Despite knowing what to look for it was a couple of goes before I could get a query to return https://www.rts.rs/sr/index.html - I had to ask for "RTS serbia".

(I am one of the handful of people watching Pesma Za Evrovisiju every year despite not understanding Serbian. One day AI will be good enough to give me subtitles)