Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented Electric Scooters

Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by dekken_ on Sunday September 03, 2023 @01:20PM (#37372143)

Anecdote: I'm not far from Paris, I was walking around a corner, dude on the footpath on a escooter runs right into me, luckily I am 188cm/100 kilos and he pretty much bounced off me, but a kid might have been less fortunate.

Paris is nice to cycle, cars can't typically go fast enough to be too much of a hinderance, better for bikes will be good tho, the bike lanes need some work

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by brigadier132 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @01:38PM (#37372322)

Funny you bring up cycling. In sf its the bikes when im walking that seem to be the most dangerous. The scooters dont go fast enough

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by sshine on Sunday September 03, 2023 @01:45PM (#37372419)

Bicycles are dangerous in the US because there isn’t a bicycling culture: The bicyclists (that I’ve seen) treat it as a sport, and the cars don’t navigate around them as if the bicyclists are suicidal, which is the safe assumption to make when you come from a bike-heavy European capital.

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by brigadier132 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @04:39PM (#37374308)

I can't tell you why honestly. I just know that my near misses have always been with bicycles. For some reason people on bikes think it's acceptable to not slow down when a pedestrian is crossing the street and it's acceptable to just blast past them within a half inch of hitting them.

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by benj111 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @01:36PM (#37372303)

Survivorship bias? If it were a car you wouldn't be around to tell the tale.

Surely the issue is the scooter on the pavement, not the fact that scooters are allowed.

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by d-trieu on Sunday September 03, 2023 @01:58PM (#37372561)

I'm sure they would've died if they got run over by a train or a plane too, but unlike either of these scooters are actually common on pavement.

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by benj111 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @02:10PM (#37372697)

Thus the second paragraph

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by dekken_ on Sunday September 03, 2023 @02:12PM (#37372720)

> not the fact that scooters are allowed.

If you read my comment, you will notice I didn't say anything about this.

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by benj111 on Monday September 04, 2023 @02:56AM (#37377856)

No, but the article is about banning them.

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by dekken_ on Monday September 04, 2023 @05:48AM (#37378833)

partially, rented escooters, not owned, so some percentage

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Re:Paris Becomes the First European Capital to Ban Rented El... by LucasBrandt on Sunday September 03, 2023 @02:11PM (#37372708)

I can only find data up to 2021, but in urban environments in France that year, 165 pedestrians were killed in crashes involving a passenger vehicle. 2 were killed in crashes involving "Personal Mobility Devices (motorized)".

Source on page 79 - https://www.onisr.securite-routiere.gouv.fr/sites/default/fi...

(Meanwhile, 190 pedestrians were killed in just my state of Illinois in 2022)

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