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Re:Real-world ranges for Teslas 50-60% of EPA Range by LeoPanthera on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:43PM (#37330597)
This is odd:

> It is even more complicated for a Tesla owner because the range displayed on the dashboard does not factor in the effects of temperature, driving efficiency or post-sale modifications. It is only when driver requests directions to a destination that the vehicle begins accounting for temperature and driving conditions.

I can kind of understand why? But I also don't believe that it would be impossible to use a better estimate even when you don't have a destination set.

Re:Real-world ranges for Teslas 50-60% of EPA Range by jsight on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @08:17PM (#37330910)
Define better? Should it be the last 15 miles of downhill driving into Baker, CA? The last 20 miles of 85+ along a high speed interstate? The last 20 miles of city driving?

TBH, other cars tend to do some mystical formula that is some approximation of the above. There's a reason that they get called guess-o-meters.

I 100% understand that quite a few people prefer that, but it does come with some interesting downsides too.

Re:Real-world ranges for Teslas 50-60% of EPA Range by Merad on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:54PM (#37330703)
My Toyota RAV4 Hybrid provides a distance to empty number that "learns" based on your driving habits (probably just averaging your MPG over the last 3-4 tanks, or something like that) and IME at least it's usually extremely accurate. Several times I've driven the car down to just 5-6 miles left on the DTE. When I did that it took almost exactly 12.5 gallons to fill up, and the car has a 14.5 gallon tank with 2 gallons held in reserve.

If Toyota can manage do it, I'm pretty sure that Tesla can. I'm just not sure that they want to.

Re:Real-world ranges for Teslas 50-60% of EPA Range by twobitshifter on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:50PM (#37330668)
Is that actually true? Even the 2014 i3 estimates range based on past driving data. I don’t think Tesla would just program in a magic number and leave it at that.
Re:Real-world ranges for Teslas 50-60% of EPA Range by MByte on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:52PM (#37330691)
I consistently beat every energy estimate given by navigation; maybe I just drive more efficiently than average? It also adjusts in real-time based on your actual driving.