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Re:I wrote, “Scrum is a cancer,” and the Internet had though... by nine_zeros on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @01:20PM (#37325526)
Office space is actually accurate once you replace TPS reports with Status reports/JIRA tickets/Performance reports/Incident reports etc.

The amount of dancing required for the sake of management in this industry is just insane.

Re:I wrote, “Scrum is a cancer,” and the Internet had though... by l33t7332273 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @01:32PM (#37325740)
I think “TPS report” is actually meaningless so it’s supposed to be swapped in for whatever is relevant to the viewer.
Re:I wrote, “Scrum is a cancer,” and the Internet had though... by aidenn0 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @01:36PM (#37325806)
It's actually a real thing that software companies of the time were not unlikely to have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPS_report
Re:I wrote, “Scrum is a cancer,” and the Internet had though... by SquirrelOnFire on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @04:26PM (#37328522)
As a long time PM (of all sorts of P)...

If you don't want to have to talk to customers, which only one developer who I've ever worked with has actually wanted to do, you need a way to equip someone else to do so.

Same thing if you want to keep your investors happy, your counterparts in other departments informed of when they need to have the hardware to pair up with your software ready, etc.

There's definitely such a thing as too much overhead, but developers who just do the things they are interested in without considering that they are part of a larger business are the other side of the coin that you're describing.

Re:I wrote, “Scrum is a cancer,” and the Internet had though... by nine_zeros on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @04:43PM (#37328803)
I think there are few things that developers object to that don't appear to get addressed.

1. If other departments need metrics/insights/visibility, why don't they go collect it? As a PM, go collect that information yourself and deliver it to stakeholders? Why does everything need to be done by engineers?

2. When engineers get measured, evaluated and pitted against each other using these activities, it breaks camaraderie. We don't enjoy these activities because we see through the management practices of rating people based on the number of proverbial TPS reports or the quality of the cover sheet or the number of story points completed - none of which are actually important to the success of business but very important to the manager who will just recycle them upwards. Do you really think people are motivated to do this meaningless work?