Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot...
by mattlondon on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:53AM
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> net result is cheaper, cooler, and a unique selling point for them
That and they are not paying for Intel's profit margins either. Apple is the quintessential vertical integration - they own their entire stack.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot...
by acdha on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @07:29AM
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I was thinking of that as cheaper but there’s also a strategic aspect: Apple is comfortable making challenging long-term plans, and if one of those required them to run the Mac division at low profitability for a couple of years they’d do it far more readily than even a core supplier like Intel.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot...
by ac29 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:40PM
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Apple doesnt manufacture their own chips or assemble their own devices. They are certainly paying the profit margins of TSMC, Foxconn, and many other suppliers.
Re:Intel Shows 8 Core 528 Thread Processor with Silicon Phot...
by MichaelZuo on Thursday August 31, 2023 @01:59PM
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That seems a bit pedantic, practically every HN reader will know that Apple doesn't literally mine every chunk of silicon and aluminum out of the ground themselves, so by default they, or the end customer, are paying the profit margins of thousands of intermediary companies.
I think a more parsimonious explanation is the accepted one: Intel was floundering for ages, Apple’s phone CPUs were booming, and a company which had suffered a lot due to supplier issues in the PowerPC era decided that they couldn’t afford to let another company have that much control over their product line. It wasn’t just things like the CPUs failing further behind but also the various chipset restrictions and inability to customize things. Apple puts a ton of hardware in to support things like security or various popular tasks (image & video processing, ML, etc.) and now that’s an internal conversation, and the net result is cheaper, cooler, and a unique selling point for them.