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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by lmm on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @07:39PM (#37315658)
We didn't used to let private companies control the public discourse. The mail is government-run and there are mail privacy protections as deep as the constitution. In the age of radio and TV we at least had the equal time rule and some level of public oversight.
Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by shadowgovt on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:03PM (#37316336)
And an FCC that could yank your broadcast license for transmitting obscenity.
Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by lmm on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:18PM (#37316447)
Sure, but there's at least some democratic accountability to that.
Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by pfisch on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:06AM (#37319678)
The mail wasn't really public discourse though.

Newspapers/tv/radio were, and no one was giving nazi's equal time on every issue.

Newspapers only ever published what they wanted to, censoring any viewpoint they felt like censoring.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by Dan_Sylveste on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @11:26AM (#37323635)
> control the public discourse

The truth is that before the internet, there wasn't really any genuine public discourse. If you wanted any reach at all, you had to go through a gatekeeper of some sort.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by tomtheelder on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:00PM (#37326214)
Following all my opinion, but easier to write without constant hedging:

IMO public discourse is less controlled by private corporations/organizations now than at basically any other point in our history, with the possible exception of like, 10 years ago.

There was never previously any realistic method for a private citizen to gain a platform to meaningfully influence discourse. Traditional media _literally_ defined the narratives in play. I’d argue that a whole lot of the ideological carnage and polarization going on is directly a result of the “democratization” of public discourse.

While there was some oversight, the reality is that news media still had basically total control over whatever narrative they were interested in pushing.

In fact, I’d argue that a lot of the ideological chaos and subsequent censorship we have seen recently is precisely a result of private corporations losing control of public discourse.