Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by bitbckt on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @12:10PM
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No, continuous is very specifically defined in the NEC as 3 hours or more of runtime.
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Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by SkyPuncher on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @01:22PM
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This article does a good job of explaining how failure modes/alternative usages can make that definition fuzzy: https://www.csemag.com/articles/understanding-overcurrent-pr...
Practically speaking, any intermittent device that _can_ run continuously or can fail to a continuous needs to be considered as such for safety purposes.
For example, a fridge should only run the compressor intermittently, but it has two obvious cases where the compressor could run indefinitely:
* An influx of heat, like filling an empty fridge with room temperature cans.
* A door being left open.
In the case of the kettle, it will likely be evaluated against it's "nominal" draw after the initial startup. If the auto-off sensor were to fail, it could run continuously at the tempurature.
Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by bitbckt on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @01:59PM
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I probably can’t speak to your jurisdiction, but no electrical inspector I’ve ever met would consider those loads continuous - in its precise, non-colloquial meaning - for the purpose of rating the circuit.
An appliance manufacturer may be under different UL regulations for failure modes of a device on a specific rated circuit. I don’t know anything about that.
Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by fragmede on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @02:41PM
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Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by vel0city on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @03:10PM
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If this is the standard then everything is a continuous load. A soldering iron or a hair dryer or a blender might get left on forever, who knows. Maybe I want the microwave to run 24 hours a day. If everything is a continuous load, why would the NEC make a difference at all?
Re:Why does the USA use 110V and UK use 230-240V?
by mindslight on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @03:34PM
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Even in the context of your refrigerator example (which I don't necessarily agree with), a kettle should have two thermostats - a primary one that keeps the temperature setpoint, and a safety cutoff in case the primary stops working. In both fail and the kettle is somehow drawing its nominal power for hours at a time, the main safety hazard is going to be the kettle itself trying to dissipate >1Kw.