Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by carabiner on Monday August 28, 2023 @05:50PM
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NFT was just all fake volume... Sell an NFT to yourself for $1m, boom, you now own a $1m asset. Then list it for $100k for the next sucker.
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Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by TacticalCoder on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:32PM
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> NFT was just all fake volume... Sell an NFT to yourself for $1m, boom, you now own a $1m asset.
aka "wash trading" (which predates NFT and crypto):
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by peyton on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:33PM
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How does that work for larger collections? If there’s a market, won’t the market find a price?
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by bandrami on Monday August 28, 2023 @07:49PM
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Eventually. The problem is the volume of non-wash trades on a lot of crypto is so embarrassingly low as to not do any real price discovery.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by capableweb on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:21PM
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How do you sell yourself a NFT to yourself if you don't already have $1,000,000? Something is clearly missing from your line of thinking here.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by andy81 on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:35PM
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The normal method is to generate a collection of a 10k NFTs and sell back and forth between your own accounts for $100 each.
The hope is that some sucker will buy them for $10, thinking that it's a bargain.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by wpietri on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:33PM
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There seem to be a lot of people out there with paper cryptocurrency gains who are happy to use them for absolutely anything that will make more money.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by mmastrac on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:30PM
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Bitcoin loans? You just need it long enough to make a wash trade.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by AnthonyMouse on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:43PM
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> How do you sell yourself a NFT to yourself if you don't already have $1,000,000?
Installment plan.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by IanCal on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:45PM
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Many people with a million dollars would like to have a million dollars and another hundred thousand dollars.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by vagab0nd on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:46PM
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You use a flashloan.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by furyofantares on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:50PM
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Some people do have a million dollars.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by throwitaway156 on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:47PM
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This is how the free market works, however. You can sell yourself a pencil for 1mil and it will be technically valued at 1mil in the public market, but good luck selling that to someone else. Same applies to NFTs, just a bit more marketing (edit: and dumb hype i should add) is involved.
Re:SEC brought its first non-fungible token enforcement action
by not2b on Monday August 28, 2023 @06:56PM
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No, because your $1 million pencil was never on the market; your hypothetical self-sale was a fake transaction. With NFTs it was often deceptively represented that someone paid $1 million, disguising the fact that these were bogus self-sales.